Mayuri Kulkarni: Before we begin, can we just have a quick introduction of your name your education qualification where you're currently teaching as what you are in your institution and what courses in teacher education does your institute offers.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Thank you, my report this opportunity and got the two degrees and Bruce.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: I am currently in charge of.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: This section Bourbons demon is horrible college of education.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: When this Institute of cater to the teacher education that this beard that's supposed to be run in our institution.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: What you do not have any degree at apologists at festivals.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: I will call it actually i'm believe not only just in theory but actually practices bangin philosophy, because the visionary i'm the founder Steve vai patel and.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: His wife.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Both of them have decided, their freedom fighters, actually, and so they had a mission to.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: propagate practice.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Especially with regard to the education system, basically, ensure that this night tell him that now that's a lot of forces with regard to experiential and.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: So actually.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: We have been practicing this right from the time of inception, which is 50 years back, we have completed a few years and this institution i'm looking for the last 20 years and this institution.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: and
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: We tried to.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: leave a particular along with the Guardian philosophy and scholars, so we have a lot of lot of activities, we believe that the teachers, not just have.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: A knowledge but practically they need to work with the hands of the practice, so we have been pioneers in introducing to the university rural education, education, social work and things like that oh yeah.
Mayuri Kulkarni: i'm yours isn't he did college.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: yeah it's an aided institution.
Mayuri Kulkarni: And you're affiliated to the University of Hawaii.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: yeah yeah we are affiliated to the university that's.
Mayuri Kulkarni: How much so, it just be it that you're right in terms of teachers.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Yes, Okay, and how much is no nct approved intake for me it.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Actually 50.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: per unit.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: But this year with the roster government has given us five more additional.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: The seeds or form or you can open economically because section of the society, so we have this year we have another one, starting with this year we have 52 in our present to you okay i'm.
Mayuri Kulkarni: All for 2019 and 20 how much would have been an intake.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: or 15 a unit one we have only one unit.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Right so, which means we have 50 students so.
Mayuri Kulkarni: We had mentioned was fully.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Yes, admission is always.
OK.
Mayuri Kulkarni: OK and man, so I wanted to understand a little about what kind of students secure admission into your.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Okay, our students basically they come from the.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: image CT CT which is rosters CT cell from there, we get 100% so.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: We do not.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Have say over the input.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Right.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: And although whoever comes in, we have to accommodate according to the rules and regulations so 50% of them are from the sub category and 50% of them are from the openstack and as for the rules and regulations of the roster of students.
Mayuri Kulkarni: And man of how many students come from science, art commerce three.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: It is, it is just kind of lopsided we have we do have this year admission, we have about the.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: about the safest not 50 a little less than that may about four to 30% of the students or from the science bathroom, of course, we have a lot of former students coming in to the it just depends on the percent of the students to be enrolled we do have.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: And we don't have any control over that because, as the government these assessments, we just stick them, so we do have an equal number of students on the promise background, though we do not offer a.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: promise method in our institution.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: So, as for the old it says that we can give them as the principal has we.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: can give them the methods that this that this offer to them.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Okay.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Yes.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: So we decided to give them, based on their background no because former students have a little bit of mathematics that's not so we tell them to take mathematics, but they do not want to take your mathematics, so they go for language and history, geography or something.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: And, which is not exactly for.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Because, as teachers you don't have the basic front end of history and geography and you will be teaching the students or.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Of the secondary section.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: So that is very sad initially, then they gave us.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: It was master's degree from us because junior college acquired we had trained teachers so income students were allowed to do the three open but later on later on political pressures political views change.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: So they have given farmers graduates to be enrolled for the.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Viet course.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: which I feel is some openly or not the right thing to do, because even in school, they do not have anything with regards to starting to form us up to the end standard only 11th and 12th have the application of promise.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: In the in one of the.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: elective courses that they want to specialize in that and that's where the bifurcation of.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: So it's a sad psycho people, nothing can be done.
Mayuri Kulkarni: And not so, apart from our commerce science, are there any other backgrounds of students.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Yes, we it because it's a teacher teachers, they want to be teachers all schools subjects are a lot like social science, we have history, geography economics languages we have Hindi Murphy and English so they're allowed to join the.
open.
Mayuri Kulkarni: And then, how would you describe the quality of their academic qualification, I mean what proportion that get admitted into your bs I come from, you know first class percentage.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: I would say that criteria is not on, based on the box, that you can imagine, now independent me students are getting graduated now the two years imagine students are graduating this year.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Last year also pandemic year they have not studied.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Much this year also total pandemic have not studied much the kind of exams that they give the kind of knowledge that we tested the kind of even the input that's been given to them.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Or, there is nothing like.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: You know, we are still to have an online i'm not against online.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: But you have to have an online teaching, it is not just to talk like this.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: There should be a two way process.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: To for them to ask questions and understand and then you are supplementing and that's how the process should go, which is not happening because everything is taken over like.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: It was just a tsunami that came and picked and everybody was carried away to another island and we are the standard, I would say, because nobody could get an access of things with them, what we need to do, nobody had planned the fight of things.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Including the including lights on the instruments to the to the tech to all the other knowledge that they have because everything has to be kind of picked up from here and there.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: And kind of do, what do you call a plastering work and just finish it off that's video, so I find the quality of the teachers.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: are quite substandard that's going to be, and that is.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: And so that's where I feel or it's going to affect the entire section of.
Mayuri Kulkarni: And now, how would you compare your students academy profile with other colleges, who do have 48 courses.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: yeah um I would actually say my students and for his, why not because of in terms of Marks i'm not looking at box at all, I will king in terms of the quality that screening Bible.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Because you believe that head heart and hands has to be trained and so we believe in the three ah, and so we see that that they are trained in all activities.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: So when a student goes from here it's not really gaining knowledge of of something, but they also learn skills, to the extent I don't think the right at this moment.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: As cpw has been practiced in all institution.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: But our institutions wanting to believe that socially useful productive or something that should be trained for them so that they can find the.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: The teachers, I mean i'm sorry train the students to have some skills, because your hand has to be.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: used to this kind of skill, so we.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: teach them a lot of useful ones.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: named ED someday living.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: It teach them tailoring in the sense not have full fledge.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Within the post, that is.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Committed we do teach them some kind of make an apron to make up a lot of a slightly they know a little bit of swing and think stitching.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: vt some articles masculine the masculine is a skill that you make, with a.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: With a low volleyball the.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: not getting the name the elliptical the subtly and then.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Could you tell me the name again.
lachlan.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Okay okay i'll just write it down yeah yeah.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Yes.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: So, so we make a lot of that the support hanger it can put the flower for on, even though I need decorate the pieces that can be made out of it.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Through knots that we use.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: to teach them in that, but that's another.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: piece that we have.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Another thing that we teach them is to make them out of part both you teach them decorate to pieces.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: So they can make a cut out and do that as well.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: And another thing activity that you serve to make puppets.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Oh wow okay.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: So these are the skills that we teach them so that they are able to pick up those skills, also as part of the.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Teaching learning process, they use these puppets and other thing they do use it in the classroom teaching us by.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: The views of the some different kinds of puppets like.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Hand puppets paper puppets finger puppets things like that.
Mayuri Kulkarni: I think a lot of things right yeah.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: So we don't dedicate enough curricular activities, a particular time US but also we teach them about how to make files and all those things.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: With a with a talk to this a plastic, but to the cardboard and everything so they make the real file.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: So that's been useful so apart from teaching the curricular activities, we do have this as part of a philosophy to teach them so graph is supposed to have both particular particular needs around okay.
Mayuri Kulkarni: proportion of men to women in students.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: it's hardly I would say, one is to me take a ratio because out of 50 there is a hardly about this time I have five boys.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Oh okay.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Out of it okay.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: So, so it is a, it is very, very few boys few men turn to this profession.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Okay yeah that's okay and man like you said it does this EP that they get.
Mayuri Kulkarni: CP is something that they given they get enrolled in the.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Right so.
Mayuri Kulkarni: What other colleges that you know students before.
Mayuri Kulkarni: You know students will take your high rank referred.
Mayuri Kulkarni: And what are the answer students.
Mayuri Kulkarni: who get admitted to college.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: See, we have a mixed mixed batch.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: But most of them come from the rural background because apologies set itself is situated in the suburbs, so they come from a little background.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: And when you look at the end of most of them are also the language is another problem for them so there's basically India marathi more.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: than English so in our college, as I told you, the input is very low, I don't get very high rank for thing except a few a few of them are there, who are who are really.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: have some for the medical group.
Mayuri Kulkarni: and
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: So.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: On.
Mayuri Kulkarni: And so on so yours is the Institute that offers the Gandhian and Dr Korean principles of eating, are there any other colleges that do so, so that you know students are like they have options that they can go to for.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: us as far as I know, no.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Okay, so it just yours.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: yeah we are about 12 at colleges here and in isn't it yeah and the moon Bay region, I would say or your University of mobile according to me, none of the colleges have this philosophy based teaching.
Mayuri Kulkarni: And i'm so how many students or take up mathematics and science once they get enrolled in Viet codes.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: yeah it's that's what I told you, we have a good number of 25 students are 50% of the population was for machines.
Mayuri Kulkarni: And the others.
yeah.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Okay.
Mayuri Kulkarni: So you know all you have to be a course was for one year and it went on for two years, when then went on to become two years, so do you think the profiler students have also changed since this one year two year old.
yeah.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Because of this, when you had one year.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: We had a we had a little more quality students coming in, for teaching.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: For two years, he found that the episode dropping in the quality.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: With regards to content knowledge to the background that they come from, because.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: I feel, because they have no other option they're coming teaching and and then in the last I think teaching is not picked up so much as a lucrative when it compares to the other professional poses we are professional polls.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: But it does not people have not.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: identified the importance of keeping education teachers as a civil more value by making it more lucrative ultimately it ends with a paper clip that you see.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: So the I mean they need they do have they do have to them in them appreciate them or they get that vision and all of that in there.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: And when you look at so awfully even that is going away because it's all becoming more commercial.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: And so the one who pay is the one who have moral and spiritual so the students are feel that that I pay money, so you better give me what I.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: So the morale has changed a lot, so you find that there is no more.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: kind of dignity attached to this.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: profession that used to be so Peter means a look up, I would say, on both ends even people who are with us it's all the product that comes in.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: dedication commitment becomes lesser and lesser lesser very few of them come for the have a passion for teaching and they come if you have a passion for, then you have the commitment, then you don't look at anything else, but that is.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Reducing a lot.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: and
Mayuri Kulkarni: yeah sorry.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: And so what so we do not know about what would be the foliage cools were at the apple standard, they have to decide with regard to the profession that they will take us so.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: We do not know how many of them will have a real passion for teaching and take that as a as location.
Okay.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: So.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Okay, so then man what what is what.
Mayuri Kulkarni: would be the social economic profile of your students.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Sophie 50 50% will come from one.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: little about average of 50% of them do come from the business side.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Okay, so it's so mix.
Yes.
Mayuri Kulkarni: And so man had they not joined teaching, what do you think would have been their alternative professions.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: For them, for asking for this.
Mayuri Kulkarni: For them.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: How.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: To say what to say because.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: If you are given the opportunity to choose.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: In a bifurcation is given in a sentence sentence for them to choose the kind of.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Things that they want to learn, then probably they can pick up some tickets, but.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: That wasn't there for them so they can make the right choice or a day for the patient, that the one.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: I do hear some of my students, not all of them, but many of them all absorb I do have some cases like that.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: who have funny after finishing Viet has joined us in the police force as a I have someone who has joined the in the pity is the.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: BST so Those are the things I feel sad because why I said, you have actually blocked the seat of someone who really wants to do teaching.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: After doing the profession it's because of money, a government job and things like that, because we'll move to this is actually both of them from up so like.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: wonder how the the commitment to the ball, that you have.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Okay ma'am and what would be the key motivation to join the Program.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: motivation for them is.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Probably probably some of them.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Do find that is a lot of support for them to join the schools but that's what my students have been saying, I asked this question to my students a blast when they join, what really to choose this.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: 50% say they have been a compulsion from parents.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: And 50% say they have made it as a choice because they just have motivated them there.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Somebody in the family had been in teaching so they want to get.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: To the summit this.
Mayuri Kulkarni: One to your students, like the most about that we are Program.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Our program they really like the Co curricular activities that they have.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: So they do enjoy the way that we teach the content through the activity to the to the scope.
Mayuri Kulkarni: And man, there could be some issues that the students might be facing with respect to the program, what do you think those might be.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: yeah our students have some issues like.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Our infrastructure is not very, very, very.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: posh in infrastructure, because, as I totally believe in the philosophy and all my management that everybody.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Have coming from that background, so we do not have a very posh infrastructure.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: This is the students to wanted to have, but at the moment there is no infrastructure, nothing everybody sitting at home and then so that's a different scenario to get.
Mayuri Kulkarni: That would so infrastructure wise, that would be initial.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: yeah that's what they wanted it a little more of comfort, with more of their needs, we do have a canteen, which is very.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: I would say this very, very small just think that cup of tea, but more than that.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: They they prefer to have a.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Very techy and things like that it just unable to do.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: So.
Mayuri Kulkarni: i'm you know what is students opinions regarding the teacher eligibility tests examinations letting.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: They feel that.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: That is good, because they do, they but they say that the fallacy of the death of course now they're saying the velocities increase.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: The validity of the test was very.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Less than in in the time you're not able to get the kind of job they wanted to so and it is.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: A best practice spell according to the success rate.
Mayuri Kulkarni: More so, in what ways, do you think you know your va program has you know changes students.
Mayuri Kulkarni: You know, once they move out of your va.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: program so yeah yeah I have a very a lot of opinion from my students, that the, this is the best institution that they have fat in the graduation rate.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: And the way that you have a very.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Good very open to them you're very friendly with them, we take a lot of physicians and help them to come there, so the teacher student relationship is very strong and very.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: tangibly the mentor mentee programs are always there in place for us right from the inception, so that people used to come faculty the.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Students faculty meet now is this commercial mentor mentee so.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: That is very strong which helps the students to have, and they are very open to us, and so they they like the wall and the friendliness, at the same time.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: We are very forth and it comes to work in order so they like, and they like repeating learning we process that happens in our institution they really like it.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Though the topics like dynamics and topics, like some of these topics, we do not just be some with a theory of them are practical experience of the whole thing, even the philosophers and philosophy we just don't teach them even take them as a visit.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: To money, money lovers to talk learn about down some path and learn about this philosophy so it's more on experience based learning is what did we learn.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Because we strongly believe in learning by me so that's something that's when they go out of his fuchun they learn a lot and they're able to I mean they're able to.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: speak about it very well and our students who are absorptive different institutions are really very happy about it, you have very good.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: teachers.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: have been in the city label as an alumni night's.
Mayuri Kulkarni: sleep sleep bad that you receive from foods with respect to teacher preparation or student preparation.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Come again I couldn't hear you.
Mayuri Kulkarni: After be and your students get placed in different schools right.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Was eating So do you receive feedback from those.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Schools with respect to their preparation.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Yes, they always tell us that our students laughter an edge over the others yeah I have, I have an literally would be actually one of the schools but distributed by.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Some of my students are absorbed it so always when I when I get a feedback from them, they keep asking the students saying that.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Your students fall in line very fast very quickly they pick up, they have a base of this particular activity, they have a base already so they come and they get involved very geeky so that's what I get the feedback from them okay okay.
Mayuri Kulkarni: And man with respect to you know after the.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Inner critic graduate and once they move out of your college, you said you have a very strong illuminated So what are the kind of feedback that they you know give you and is the feedback just only know with respect to where they are right now, or or is it also reflection based treatment.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: It is a deflection based feedback and we try to invite his feedback into our evil curriculum as well, they have SSA they have given feedback with Dr ICT our previous practice.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Now we have we have updated the whole thing they've given us feedback with regards to the classroom arrangements and situations like that, so we have modified that, of course, every time they give us a feedback canteen so i'm still working on it.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: So, so we do we don't get the feedback from them and even with regard to our teaching.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Some of the topics of the fee that this would be taken and some other ways it is little.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Maybe a boring, or maybe it is a very routine and one day if they have yeah they have given us feedback we do we do try to change them.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Okay okay.
and
Mayuri Kulkarni: So we were talking about the TV so for the past two or three batches how many of your students would have applied for the TV or the CPA exam.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: We actually oriented, which has special classes for your for the teaching and the interest, most of them to take part and from the last four batches are visible.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: I should say 15 of them have.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: You know, clear, I mean got a job because of feet.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Oh.
Mayuri Kulkarni: How many so save.
Mayuri Kulkarni: The safety of your students do apply for the CPA exam how many do actually pass.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: So, in a look at the last TT.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Not also people at them for it.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: I think there were about.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: 20 of them attempted for it okay.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: and of the witcher a team eight of them or seven of them have cleared.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Okay, and you know provide support for tmp preparation.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Yes, yes okay.
Mayuri Kulkarni: And so, with respect to tip there could be colleges that you know, have a very high pass rates and there could be colleges, where there would be no minimum or no pass it or what would be the reason for.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: See when I when you look at the syllabus of TT, it is very sad to say that the, especially with the mouth of the with the the state state he.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: said GM and not the there are two two levels are there, one is the state government one is this, and because.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: The central government syllabus is good because they do, they they say what they have and they go ahead, the state government keeps changing, and it is not really.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: After the standard there's a lot of changes that they make time and again, and as a result, the student go to lot of hazardous things at the last minute, and the time keeps changing in a lot of things are not in very.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: good shape.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: As of the Central Bank.
Mayuri Kulkarni: But now that you say I think last week only love news I come back so you know it'd be increased by seven years or 10 years or something.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Yes, that's what they're saying they're saying that yeah.
Mayuri Kulkarni: So what, how will that.
Mayuri Kulkarni: You know, come into play with respect to the schools now.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: I feel that's where maybe because of the NDP 2020 has has made it compulsory for everybody to do the test, so I feel that that says given us to think that.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: The number of years, also should be more than so the number of years has been ahead of me.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Okay man i'm sure what time, so what our students getting employed as after completion, I mean in the last two batches what proportion of students actually took up a job and what kind of schools, did they find their jobs in.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Are they find jobs and all kinds of schools, like, for example, some of them have been job with the institution, some of them have got job in unaided institution.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: So it depends on some of them have gotten CBC I see I see, because we do train them for all kinds of things so some of them have gone into CBC school, some of them up on the ice.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Okay.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: So the.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: The absorption of the students are all the science math students 90% of them get absorbed immediately and the 10 during the thing are now who gets it late or finds it difficult to do is that the Hindi or the morality students.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Now we're here at the present moment of the schools, want the students to be proficient in all three languages, who you are a.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: nice little you should be proficient in the back, as well as if whatever language teacher, you are, you should be proficient in the other languages that's a State language as for listening so what the students were passed out as the Hindi with major.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Hindi method, then they were able to speak English well, they would absorb like it with you, but those students who are not able to be fluent in English, so the method is Hindi they're very good at him, but they were not so fluent in English well finding it a little difficult, we have so.
Mayuri Kulkarni: much so, how does the placement thing work at your.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Institution me to have a placement, sale or.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: We have a placement sell place so the placements i'll.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Give them a lot of things, it gives the grooming bookshops both for them.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: From the placement of with regards to the personality, with regard to how to face interviews the moving three of work boots on from the placement so.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: So, after the grooming session, then they are actually given mock interview.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: and other things so, then they are prepared, and afterwards, we do have everything in the regular time for us to have a Mailer.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: So different sports come here to the campus.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: And then they have a campus interview Okay, now there are two ways we have attempts interview, and we have also with a long time to organize so we have interviews.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: off campus has been.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: This they are the schools from a different elements and other schools which we are associated with practice teaching another thing they give us a list of.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: requirements to us and we said we look at the thing and we send it to them to the school, so we have both of us on campuses.
So you.
Mayuri Kulkarni: We have heard that you know new teachers who are just parts out from peers are generally given lower grade classes to teach in schools.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Is this true and do your students you.
Mayuri Kulkarni: know what glazed in lower grades.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: weren't trained.
Mayuri Kulkarni: to teach local classes.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: know this is maximum extent that that's what my students have to they have not gone to the primary section no oh.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: As far as a development, the last five years, I.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: can think of on so nobody's placed in the prime in Section seven places the standard a pretense and the first question, as you asked, I have students will be absorbed right the way to teach them separate.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Oh.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: yeah so also it's not that they have not put in the fire classes and not in a small small schools like that schools which will travel great populations will publish their they had that they have salt and put their feet with each step.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: So.
Mayuri Kulkarni: I know.
Mayuri Kulkarni: What proportion of students government jobs and get government job.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: that's a very, very meager thing possible that there is a ceiling, they have not opened up for a long time, they have not opened the thing now recently, they said, the Minister.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: But they have to give exams and other thing.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: it's not like previous time so those people definitely was aquatic clearance for that's where the students are also motivated to do a test exam and get that here as well.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: So.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: First of all, not much of a lead comes from the government, secondly.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: after finishing up a bit, they also should have a death in the hand, which is also is a little challenging.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: So.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Last one or later about fuel their issues to the bone bone and commentators.
Mayuri Kulkarni: When i'm like you said you have a placements and do you also have all your institute affiliated with private schools for placement.
Yes.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: We are we have both all the private schools, as well as a tool to have a show as part of over of placements.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: and
Mayuri Kulkarni: What do you think would be the starting salary of these students who joined private schools.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: yeah by the school, so the the distance between the tsa taking them enough in a very of video students and i'm in the Center schools around which they are they.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: I have students who are having from 35 K also is the 2525 to 35 K they get it, but there are students who are getting also 12 to 15.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Some does this range or define the grades also say that.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: People feel they are giving those students who are.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: The standard PC a helper.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Six like that.
Okay.
Mayuri Kulkarni: So it depends on the range or the rate in which.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: The Defense on the dreams.
Mayuri Kulkarni: and whatever other carriers, other than teaching that you know students can force you.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: In our students.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: yeah once it's finished the Masters they finished the MN or even the beard they are our days in the HR unit.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: The summer, one of my students have it, so they have masters and we're developing the hedgehog.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: And some of them are the.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: box for PT for that Islam planning and design.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Is the speed for the curriculum to be planned for the entire school.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Like that they have a unit like good put our schools, they have a for that, and all of that they have a unicorn.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: That idioms planning the path so some of my students are absorbed there also for the planning levels.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: they're not teaching the only plans the curriculum.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Oh wow okay.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Now, what are some of the challenges that you know you or your colleagues face with reference to teaching.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: yeah challenges is that since the day our goals is very limited, our number one is our admission itself is a big challenge for us the scores are supposed to be a two year posts and when your student comes in January you're already lost around.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: six to seven months of the first year.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Does this happened, like normally or is it now because of covert.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Now dutiful with worst but normally also he get us to live up to a third one down, but the last one last thing that gets into institution, I have a lot of students are some novel So the first quarter, you know it's gets old.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: There were times when we could take the admission that at the university level indicative that into that state agree with that, with the instances we finish our admission for the next year in April.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: So, Joe used to be the time that the students stuff in.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: And they used to have.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: All the all the orientations and then.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: The bed ready to go to school, from July onwards, do you have a parallel system we have we have a professionals and the battle system is that schools are parents, the minute walk along with this.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Now, when the students in the university, as the first semester.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: You find it very difficult to Buddha practical work today the last lesson that's our job, this is.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: All the function of service for those of the job.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: So we find it it's like.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: it's a very big task for the teachers and as the day goes it's becoming worse.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Not becoming better.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Now, I just want to know why so you know by to the bh students coming so late, I mean, why is it, why does it happen until November forbid, I understand, but otherwise.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: it's all it's all.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: it's with the va it's a government government has to take the policy.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Or, they have to give the they have to come out with the print print work and they have to give it to the person departments, and then it has to go on and on and.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: What happens is that earlier it used to be after the initial presentation at least one year, they have to be to join the course.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: That was very good, because everything is in place for them to understand now what happens because I would see the kind of policies that has changed, due to the pressures from the government to to.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Do a piece appease their own.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: interest because most of them have ministers and others have this feeling that apathy, so what they decided say the same year, the students can apply.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: So that is also have to be declared for the device.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: The results get delayed.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: into whatever so reason.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: So when that results get to the delay so everything both mater and later than before, what happens one year he promised that, so we have students really in April to do that the CT and the goal that the process, so if you're not having a degree degree Thompson jewel probably in July.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: So all the CT.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: begins from July or the end of June, or whatever.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: So then it goes on and on and by the time they finish their processing and all of that, and then.
Mayuri Kulkarni: What about you know challenges that you and your colleagues might fit with respect to see your salary or your opportunities to develop as a profession.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: professionally, as I told you our sister dominated.
Mayuri Kulkarni: college okay.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: So i'll sell it it comes to the door open for that there is no problem is that for us.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Because we get the scale of our.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: speech is that equal did that, so I salary goes as the bone on this.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: And also, we believe in helping that teachers to develop the skills, so they also are given time, new promotions and timely assistance, like to see say listen, this is.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: taking care of the Faculty needs and they always.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: look into them any new skills many new things are coming so we always.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: request the student teachers who participate in that.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: So there is no issue.
Mayuri Kulkarni: And now, what about the mcp recommendations, how do their regulations you know, do they.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Do they create hindrances in your management.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: yeah entity entity us like.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: dancing nct is the one who gives us guidelines for a syllabus.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: So they are our body, we have the regulators, one is the Marsh department, one is the utc the other DC and.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: So.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: our rules and regulations follows everything and.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Then city also we have here we are accountable to them with regard to our.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: activities that we do with regard to our side of.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: The work that we are accountable to them as well, so they do try this they don't give us a guideline.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: which we need to apply.
Mayuri Kulkarni: it's the same with Mumbai university also write the names and the examination pattern would be coming.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Yes, yes yeah yeah.
Mayuri Kulkarni: And now, what is your view with respect to the for your of the program that has now been you know, proposed by the new education policy.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: See when they then it has to be the way the the treatment and the entire process should be like the professional.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: bed they they should they should not be just.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Any and everybody who are interested cannot get this just like after 12 there are exams that has to be given for engineering committee.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: They should be streamlined for this and then, in parallel, they should keep even teaching profession in parallel with the other purpose.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Even the doctors and engineers come through the teaching.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: So this profession has to be.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: One minute.
yeah.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: i'm in an interview, so I.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: just have to.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: selfie selfie.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Sorry.
Mayuri Kulkarni: i'm taking a lot of your time it won't take more than five to seven minutes holds.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: My management, this is this, so the last.
Mayuri Kulkarni: five to seven minutes.
Mayuri Kulkarni: yeah.
Mayuri Kulkarni: We were talking about the integrated.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: yeah so that's what I need so they should be given the same weight it's a point of.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: You know.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: It should not be like Okay, you are you can't get into medical you can get a generic duplicated to.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Teach it should not be so like if you're making into for integrator jolly will make that as a as a policy based ones aptitude based one get Let that be a test in which that would be screen totally on the basis of the aptitude.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: And then get into the folks to learn about it.
Mayuri Kulkarni: And i'm do you think this will eventually.
Mayuri Kulkarni: lead to improving quality of feature of cross.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: of hope so, because I really looking forward, because what happens is that the concurrency is the vehicles is only to train them with regard to methodology process steps.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Or, if you do not have the content, I cannot do anything with the methodology to so in the fourth year is that that is why the full results are coming in.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Where the content and the methodology is kind of streamline for them, so we know that these people have gone through this content they have a base for this content when they come at the end.
Mayuri Kulkarni: And they're also talking about you know the composite part of the beard you know the we're also should continue along with the foyer, what is your take.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Your institute state.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: It will be there, slowly, it will be now like how the one year so without now.
Right.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: It was this one year was there for at least for the for the exempt and other things were going on for some time, clear of the whole.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Similarly, this two year because it is an initiative program and there are many graduates wanted to do teaching who have come out of the thing, so they should also get a fair chance of trying out with that so probably it will be not, it will be a weaning process and it will be.
Mayuri Kulkarni: And then, just one last question, because you know we are right in the middle of pandemics, so you know how has covert actually you know.
Mayuri Kulkarni: How did it work or not work for you as an instructor.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: hi I have been fortunate in charge principal the poor will type.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: It is so very difficult to get connected communicated and both purpose, for I don't know what the students doing, on the other side of the screen because.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: There is no opening from them, however, whatever so see we are getting into the whole hmm and there are there are women, especially women.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Whose roles are being.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: drastically changed due to the sport.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Okay, they were the caregivers right from the beginning, but at least the caregiving time was limited when they're all to learn, or to progress in some.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: And this situation, the care giving this is like a continuous 24 seven.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: In that they have to do everything so as it is, I don't say feel.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Bad for me really impactful when they are not able to keep the screen open they're not able to interact, because they are not human face if it wasn't bad nobody disturbs a man, but he's working from home, but this is a woman.
Mayuri Kulkarni: yeah.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: You know I myself face that so I know that if i'm giving this interview from boom, I also would have been interested in tapes so I believe you.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: So this is something which is very a digital thing number two, we are not everything is on technology, everything is based on the connectivity.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Right, there is no hands on experience for them, which we really believe and.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: So this is a very big law they're not able to they only able to use a limited sense you're only able to do a limited things which are.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: So.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: used to take them visits for museum.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Now we have to call the museum on wheels to come and just worried about that, so if the experience is very, very difficult yeah.
Mayuri Kulkarni: And the students ideas, so you teach your Students must be facing in terms of you know monetary or medical conditions.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: How, all that is there as well, because, as I told you our majority of students are women.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: and women has a greater role at home when they stay at home, whether they're young or whatever the our students are about 20 plus they are something when they come here 2223 and less.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: So either they are so the caregiving role is too much for them to that and, in that process they're not able to give the best, even if they want.
Mayuri Kulkarni: And man, how is your faculty go over it.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: They have managed that's what I would say one but they manage the whole thing, so they had to initially they have learned.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: and learn learn, and then they have to teach because learning and teaching going simultaneously.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: And they picked up lot of course this year was little better, because they have a few skills, so they are able to roll it out in a better manner, but still nothing like person to person face to face, especially for teaching.
Mayuri Kulkarni: And I got one last question, you know, overall, if I will want to ask you how has forward, you know affected the program as a whole, how would you describe.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: If you asked me to put it on a scale of one to 10 yes it is afflicted I would say, after seven.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: Okay, so 70% I would say affected okay 70 to 80% I will say if this totally affected the teaching learning process, so you would not the teachers who would be coming out of this will definitely not be a role model, a good teacher.
Gandhi Shikshan Bhavan: that's my op.
Mayuri Kulkarni: OK OK man Thank you so much for your.