Bindu Thirumalai: Electrical problem.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Okay, so thank you for agreeing to this discussion before we begin, I can we can just have a quick introduction of with your name your educational qualification the Institute that you're teaching right now that you're a part of and, what is your area of specialization.
DELL: see this yoga.
DELL: You know my name is my name is Vivian and I have done a PhD in education, as well as.
DELL: completed MBA and then we.
DELL: See physics basically and.
DELL: Science for.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Okay.
DELL: I have been teaching since last 35 years.
DELL: Digital education is our most active as that.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Okay.
DELL: Now I am dealing with this medical Center.
DELL: data for global medication pts and and process and so.
DELL: Why me, I met a department here and we generally conduct research in service training Center we conduct in service training so also I am centigrade of the incidents during this is what my pitches.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Okay, and so, can you.
Mayuri Kulkarni: just give me a second.
Mayuri Kulkarni: yeah sorry i'm.
Mayuri Kulkarni: So, so can you just come again with an email can institute.
DELL: institute studies in education.
Mayuri Kulkarni: And it's in dry portrayed.
DELL: law school that.
will last.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Until, what are the courses that you teach within your MIT Program.
DELL: amid a research methodology.
Okay.
DELL: In service piece of is the TV.
DELL: As soon as you can see that.
DELL: The rest of the team Emily is to carry on without being left or right or to say engagement is everything.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Okay, and so is he just has a mid course or it has other courses as well.
DELL: We have a beard and PhD courses in education so yeah I mean.
Mayuri Kulkarni: So we have PhD in education on so.
here.
DELL: Okay PhD programs.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Okay, and so, since when do does is he have these three programs the beard image and the PhD.
DELL: You see, I can say about a PhD but for the amended, we are in.
1956 1966.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Okay, and being.
DELL: It was called as pgp one is was to that is basically.
Mayuri Kulkarni: OK OK.
DELL: Sir, you see amendment.
DELL: New education policy after.
DELL: It has been awarded, as I see.
Okay.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Okay.
DELL: Okay, or there are too many holidays interpret what.
DELL: That is called city, there is.
Mayuri Kulkarni: A notion muscle.
DELL: We are we are.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Right and so, since when does be ED I mean does we had run in your college.
let's.
Mayuri Kulkarni: see him open.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Right, and so what is the CTE approved intake for all of these three courses.
DELL: entity that role for BA BA.
DELL: BA BA BA that we are having to physics and I made a.
Mayuri Kulkarni: 55 zero and PhD how many scholars, do you take.
DELL: PhDs we are having Center of the university, so it depends upon the number of the.
DELL: guys that haven't happened in the Center.
DELL: We are connecting PhD for two things and there's no.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Okay okay.
Mayuri Kulkarni: And so, how many students would have been admitted in 2019 and 24 we had an admin.
DELL: see what the people are stupid.
Mayuri Kulkarni: So I mean the seats were full.
Mayuri Kulkarni: yeah okay Okay, so what is the proportion of students, you know who come in for a BA from art science and commerce thing.
DELL: Actually we don't discriminate.
DELL: On this basis, because we do conduct say in service training also some.
DELL: Other students percent of the students who are already working St just with the tenor frumpiness experience on the basis of.
DELL: Then seniority we joined we give admission to the 70 patients and the rest of the 75 students are coming from decrease, or we prepare the examination, that is, the conductor way.
DELL: Back on that.
Mayuri Kulkarni: So this is for a media saying no.
DELL: This is a beard.
Mayuri Kulkarni: For this system is for being here and for me.
DELL: That i'm, so we are having 44 students who are regular teachers.
DELL: They are generally we.
DELL: take a position on the basis of entrance examination.
DELL: Okay, it says the law school, as would not take into but.
DELL: We are unable to conduct a submission so.
DELL: We are taking them on the basis of the marriage of beard or delay.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Okay okay.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Right so also how would you describe the quality of their academic qualification, I mean what proportion, would you say to have first class box when they get admission.
DELL: Last month.
DELL: What is this what.
Mayuri Kulkarni: will get admitted eyes.
yeah.
DELL: Look under 70% of.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Adult i'm ask you once they get admitted at your Institute.
Mayuri Kulkarni: He would obviously look through their grades again to understand you know what kind of academic qualification do they get through.
Mayuri Kulkarni: So, once you looking at is if you're looking at decorates How would you think that needs to be I mean how many students would have 75% and above percentage on how many of them will have 60% and above.
DELL: What this person, I would like to, so this is a professional position and the model that 75% 75 so that that if the 3% of the students are already teachers and generally the bs and Ms based on the practicing education programs only.
DELL: thing, I think.
DELL: Being a, this is a watermelon juice and we are having less pay needs to be paid.
DELL: Right so naturally from the previous examination, you see that.
DELL: The top scorers.
DELL: losers, who used to come up with you, and so it is the most almost 80% plus students are getting more than 70%.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Okay So how do you assess your students academic strengths and weaknesses once they are in your Program.
DELL: Using medical program run by the University, I think I think some problems.
Mayuri Kulkarni: And i'm just having a really bad cold i'm so sorry for this.
DELL: see that so yeah if it is a lot was will not no.
Mayuri Kulkarni: No, no, so this is completely fine sorry i'm extremely sorry for this.
DELL: program is honestly the.
DELL: curriculum is the United States and.
DELL: We used to follow the is because this is an updated on it.
DELL: So we used to follow the instructions in.
DELL: The archive you say we are.
DELL: nct last entity knowledge which are bigger than the grocery career, which is proposal by the city in the year 2015.
Mayuri Kulkarni: And i'm.
DELL: Just following it, so I don't think we.
DELL: We deviate much.
DELL: We have I can imagine living.
Mayuri Kulkarni: OK.
Mayuri Kulkarni: OK so i'll tell you were saying you are affiliated So what is the university that you're affiliated to.
DELL: Thank you very much, we spoke last one.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Okay.
Mayuri Kulkarni: I just need.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Okay.
Mayuri Kulkarni: So, so you know how would you compare your students academic profile with that of other colleges students academic profile, how would you compare.
DELL: Actually, instead of answering this question, I would.
DELL: like to say that we are having a great disparity in the university level of.
DELL: curriculum placement gives the only two colleges or.
DELL: Universities that are being conducted by.
DELL: van meter of citizen.
DELL: On ages and different universities.
DELL: colleges.
DELL: 44 plus years apologists.
DELL: Disparities that.
DELL: college.
DELL: school education department.
DELL: And Ministry of tourism department.
DELL: Of the private colleges, which.
DELL: department so.
DELL: We don't have any cities.
DELL: Department of Education itself.
DELL: And more, there is no teaching the.
University.
DELL: Education university.
DELL: So.
DELL: David has having I think seven to eight.
DELL: And each and every university has its own curriculum and you say.
DELL: They are for conducting via two laps back to that to conducted being conducted by clicks on it, because there is no faculty to be.
DELL: So this is a.
DELL: Bad about this thing a no education, no proper coordination or no control of academic activities is being done by any.
DELL: government agency over.
Mayuri Kulkarni: got it, so I thought, what would be the proportion of men and women's as students in both of your programs.
DELL: These are 65% of the students are we make a difference.
Mayuri Kulkarni: In both be at animate.
Mayuri Kulkarni: same proportion.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Also, so like you were saying, most of the students are admitted to the CT conducted at the state level right, so this is what we had, and how does embedded Michigan state.
DELL: region region see that we conducted department alicia alicia.
DELL: Okay, my final examination also since last to do so, they want to win, yes, we are, we will not be able to conduct because of this.
DELL: Right now we are selecting on the basis of a bm as needed basis.
DELL: So the first two days.
DELL: Before people come from the departmental candidates and for six candidates are.
DELL: The first candidates, we are on episode six so in diverse candidates, those are applied those applied for a metric them.
DELL: They will be.
DELL: They will be selected here today is to be selected on the basis of the merit of vehicle this isn't.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Okay, and so yeah sorry continue.
DELL: Are there, they need to fulfill your exam for admission form.
DELL: To the SCI fi, which is the program schema which is they, they advertise the program and they asked.
DELL: For hunger Philip and after that data will be shared with us and we used to segregate them, as well as we collect our.
DELL: All the on the basis of the military Sara.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Jay also so you were saying you know you just have to government colleges in your entire state.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Right stayed right.
Mayuri Kulkarni: It is the mcp.
Mayuri Kulkarni: of water, the colleges that are referred by students who actually secure like really good marks in their entrance exam.
DELL: To get the market is not a very well I didn't matter, because after getting this bs degree, because this is a compulsory.
DELL: You see a compulsory a qualification qualification to get to teach us okay we're getting we're getting schools these Max does not matter because completion of the certificate itself is in a bigger eligibility of the.
DELL: Of the getting data, so I think exploring is not really.
DELL: methods.
Mayuri Kulkarni: They would obviously have preferences to get through colleges right so, is it and CT could be one of the most preferred.
DELL: We are having a we used to charge any.
DELL: fees that we can take.
DELL: place if it disappears is the criteria number one.
DELL: After coming over here, you see, they used to have to go through each and every activities that is made available.
DELL: Yes, let's.
So.
DELL: Some people yeah some students don't want to even get that that perform a glorious beginning of this so they they try to escape the things.
DELL: You see, those who have to either one here after completion of two years, they are having a blackface and they enjoy the days they lie.
DELL: They remember the things that this is a cycle that chases them.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Right so so how many students in a mid level, an op ED level actually take of mathematics and science teaching and what does the profile.
DELL: You see, but I know I can get out of our students are now physics mathematics mathematics, because I used to teach mathematics.
DELL: You have after that brought the backup vendor because I I do several things already because I think that growing up man is various things, so it should be and what what is the question.
Mayuri Kulkarni: The science science subject.
Is.
DELL: Also.
DELL: If you want to have that type of information, but.
Mayuri Kulkarni: it's not it's not very data driven if you just remember some of the top of your mind and soul so key.
Because.
DELL: It varies by them, because we we generally and we take admission the 72nd it's it.
DELL: depends upon the their seniority of their working.
Okay right.
DELL: of their faculty from this list discipline, they are coming.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Okay right.
DELL: Here also, in pre service also we have taken, that is, on the basis of the American the 3D.
DELL: So that is also me, we cannot eat lettuce every year.
DELL: Separate to the segregation for each and every.
DELL: application is not the last you know specific event every year in this.
Mayuri Kulkarni: So that profile is come is a combination of fresh students and a company and the other part, would be those who have experience in teaching.
Mayuri Kulkarni: So, if so, experience and eating, I understand, but save there are fresh 20 students, what about of your va so out of those 20 students, if some choose mathematics and some to science, what is the criteria for them choosing these two subjects.
DELL: criteria is only the subject.
Mayuri Kulkarni: that's the only criteria.
DELL: Because the students who have not seen that the most of the that you're the guide you into the.
DELL: Engineering they are coming to the job.
DELL: offer 115 be.
DELL: Students are coming over complicate that be me in various man just.
DELL: mathematics or science, because the.
DELL: blue moon the things.
DELL: Not that's bakery our tech support enter moreover method, they are having a graduation mathematics in that situation, so they are coming to the metabolic.
sentiment.
Mayuri Kulkarni: yeah.
DELL: So you went up on those.
DELL: laws of.
DELL: mathematics VSE mathematics, they can also.
DELL: Because it depends upon.
You know.
DELL: yeah.
Mayuri Kulkarni: So you know some time back you were just saying about how these students after we have feel really good, you know how the program or the curriculum has shaped them so.
Mayuri Kulkarni: I wanted to ask how you see them, you know what are the changes that you see in them as students from the time they get admitted in your college until the time they leave both of these courses.
DELL: At the time of because you see that really would order for discussion board against them, we don't have that type of things we discussed during this program.
DELL: It happens after our meeting or they are already we said.
DELL: We meet somewhere in the main field, are you saying that these are the things that we have not from the Center these are things that we.
DELL: can be done, that every time whenever they they say like this, then they feel proud of it as a, this is the reason and more are you see that the students are coming from the.
DELL: Other areas, as well as as well as they work, they are not even explore explore a they are not having experience of the step of water technology each and every time I was using.
DELL: This education that is new to him.
DELL: And they are, they have being exposed to another feeling.
DELL: So Anthony each and everything is new for them so.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Jenny so, and so what would be their social economic profile like you said rural areas, but anything more specific.
DELL: So you see my students out there as well, no, I have one.
DELL: Not Is this a speech or that and he was it was a sense that.
DELL: was not.
DELL: The gc the va program he's made for.
DELL: By the middle class, for the middle class and.
DELL: So middle class people are coming middle class people are getting degrees and middle class people are becoming teachers and they are.
DELL: These are, this is not happening, we could not reach to the downtrodden and even it is not we are not in a position to do it, because this is a system is like this is.
Mayuri Kulkarni: So it's the middle class, who come in for.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Both of these so so if the students have not joined the teaching program or the teaching or you know the sector of education, what do you think would be students have as alternatives career options.
DELL: And I do.
DELL: I do think, because of the percent of the candidates, we are talking about, because the personality and.
Mayuri Kulkarni: The.
DELL: rest of the students, they prefer to join an education.
DELL: sector, for he had a PhD level our university level up they're coming once again.
DELL: To the Masters level they are to join one month, and this is the Web APP is happening, we don't actually get the data right actually they are going to be sure.
DELL: It is the requirement of MAC also, but we have to collect the because.
DELL: We haven't I haven't.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Okay.
Mayuri Kulkarni: So what do you think is the motivation for students who join bs or a maid or any teacher education program according to you.
DELL: This is the easiest getting.
DELL: updates.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Nothing is yes okay so so what, what do you think that your students, like the most about both of these programs individually so beyond students, what do they like about the program and image students, what do they like about Lucas.
DELL: They are not in a position to answer this because.
Mayuri Kulkarni: You.
DELL: brought it to me because, because you see Viet program is framing of it is the curriculum is designed a framework is even better.
DELL: So we are following the same instructions and also I don't think there is anything at choices between with us, because we haven't, even though it is, and noting that you have building it with businesses last five six years because of the limitation of.
DELL: The school yes beard.
DELL: see something, but I do feel that.
DELL: changes are required to be, I think it needs to be reduced because.
Mayuri Kulkarni: So my dad would be something that your students would like about the program date.
DELL: yeah they're getting a good thing, because no they specifically try to understand what exactly the student is how is to be the psychological part of the previous lives we are teaching on psychology.
DELL: psychology of education, nowadays, we are dealing with the perspective so.
DELL: eating, as we know.
DELL: Something is being recognized by the students, so they are feeling, because each and everything is being asked about this.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Today, and is there anything that they don't like about the program I know they don't have a choice, but you know, students, because they are students, they obviously have something that they like if they do.
Mayuri Kulkarni: In the.
DELL: Truth because my.
family.
DELL: is very decent normal, because it is an intensive program is fired off by month one month.
DELL: One month in the last year and that performance, for the second year, as well as you can see that we are having though we don't have any cultural.
DELL: Activities know we conducted nvidia control activities and sports, which is not even included in the booth and then after we conducted privately, so a lot of the things that we conduct so they enjoy the things and.
DELL: that's all I don't think most of the artists, that the theme which is not available in the curriculum they enjoy more than that.
DELL: Is it that they have.
DELL: taken the.
DELL: Time to understand what exactly needs to be there, which is what the thing is not, but I think by the.
DELL: beast I mean after.
DELL: Seeing, we have to take out a lot of things going to be changed and putting a lot of things, the thought process is going to be.
Mayuri Kulkarni: So overall I want your students, think about the beard and emmett coats is it good is it bad is it helping them, or is it just a means for job.
DELL: see that.
DELL: There are no able.
DELL: Now they're able to speak they're coming to the stage and say that we are new we lost our theater and so these are the, these are the personal development activities on the basis of workshops and seminars, we generally candid and.
DELL: honest enough to reconnect on the on the basis.
DELL: They have given.
DELL: How their own things to present and we we didn't know as we see that we are conducting the internal examination, that the unit tests examination in the model of liberty for the patient.
DELL: We are not getting the giving every question, and now you see that it select a unit.
DELL: And you present a pee pee pee pee pee and to present that takes know this might this we are increasing their vocal diversity in against it, I hope that today are having with that with the content that is also being busy.
DELL: season interactive activities that.
DELL: Naturally, after that getting all these things that they that person, on the other, is.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Here today so So what is students opinions regarding to the the teacher eligibility text.
DELL: Analysis participate, along with.
DELL: During this program.
DELL: Okay, exactly, I could not be the number one because I don't deal with the 9am.
meeting with me today.
Mayuri Kulkarni: No, no, I don't want to date i'm asking their opinion regarding the TV.
DELL: Today, because it is compulsory for the selection of the second.
century.
DELL: to join.
DELL: Make the idea.
DELL: That we.
Have.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Today, so So do you I mean do you get any feedback from the schools are regarding the student preparation, I mean when they go for an internship or school same school Program.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Do you receive any feedback from Peter from schools with respect to the kind of preparation, you need to give the students beforehand.
DELL: When.
DELL: The students a.
DELL: Particular format six applicants.
DELL: into the varmints would.
DELL: That be disarmed the quieter you say that they can see.
DELL: And this, these are these are students who, as a supplement to them and the day.
DELL: But the day same thing we can say that when the teachers are access indexes because the ladies mismatch in the.
DELL: urban areas, you can see, in urban areas, they have become useless sometimes because of because these they are already having a capacity of their work and.
DELL: In fact, it says we are having some.
DELL: trouble with the proper exquisite.
DELL: That is unless there's.
Mayuri Kulkarni: An eye on so after your students pass out from BA and ma today keep in touch with you do, you have like an aluminum guru or centered.
DELL: Directly actually with the time about the eliminate.
DELL: eliminate but you see that it is not properly working at.
DELL: This this color this morning, as well as you said, like upon it, we are directly connecting in service various incentives for remix.
Mayuri Kulkarni: But I.
DELL: know enough to know about our bond meant that evaluation on the various gives me tell me.
DELL: Can.
DELL: You see.
DELL: sponsored by us on.
DELL: This I can be able to know and part of that.
DELL: Now we have been alerted that, along with the teaching we do this step of the.
way.
DELL: As well as more as in service three just any program on the centrally was asking this is.
DELL: Our own.
DELL: Instead of getting regular emmitt Smith, is a toxin so this type of various things we do engage ourselves in the business so exactly how it applied even even.
DELL: Then we could be that with them, we just don't have any plans at planet, he said mama can be eliminated or collecting experience or danica kind of Nice Nice.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Okay, so so like you were saying you know TT, you know as a compulsory way to get through, you know, to get actually admitted as a school teacher in the school so i'm pretty sure many of the students would give.
Mayuri Kulkarni: them the examine beard but how many do you think actually pass I don't want the exact number, but you could probably give up the ocean.
DELL: See because of the background, if you see that.
DELL: Nowadays, since we see that that is last pricing see yes moto, of the one of the candidates from the engineering sad.
DELL: know what day, it is not possible, it is not.
DELL: difficult for them, because they are lovers, and they are doing, because after getting MBA degree and you see after adding this beard as as well as me plus we're making them able to easily so I guess people 40% are able to get to the examination and.
Mayuri Kulkarni: that's quite a good number so so does your.
Mayuri Kulkarni: institute isc give any kind of extra support for these applicants PT applicants.
DELL: And since we have landed, because this is the query I mean by that so on the front of other parts of Africa, so we have collected, how many people not to study examination I think me for this pandemic, we have conducted on the two courses and we have been asked to the.
DELL: Experts to come and the gila how are we to be.
DELL: Presented properly and one of these faculties are so used to get booty glasses and they used to conduct or so on, at the same thing, because in the classes, they used to teach reasoning and that these.
DELL: Are the education part we are the people to support.
Mayuri Kulkarni: So, so you know I mean you have quite a good passing rate for TV there could be either colleges around your vicinity, which would have lower passing rate for dt, what do you think would be the reasons for this.
DELL: middle reasoning, because I think.
DELL: It needs to be done this way you see.
DELL: You.
DELL: If you ask them on the pirate policies, so you can see that.
DELL: Except this building, there is nothing.
DELL: Coming.
DELL: And this is not good for the next and the things which are required for re examine that, and you can say that.
DELL: The course curriculum of the.
DELL: Of this data examination that did not properly me.
DELL: That So this is the place.
Okay.
Mayuri Kulkarni: So, and so I wanted to know or you know after your students complete.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Your va and image courses.
Mayuri Kulkarni: You know what kind of jobs do they prefer for and in the last two years, you know what kind of jobs have these both of these set of students have eventually got one they've moved down.
DELL: To.
DELL: See because.
DELL: You see, the connectivity last one.
DELL: student is not properly, then I met via Twitter.
DELL: Using the Program.
DELL: Definitely know it is easy, most of the pirates, which also been used.
DELL: For proper functioning movies, and also, we cannot say anything about.
DELL: It because.
DELL: We.
DELL: wanted to do something like.
DELL: This as a stage, most of this.
DELL: When we tell you is a primary middle schools and.
DELL: private schools are most, that is.
DELL: One that they may be doing their.
DELL: rental business.
DELL: English.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Okay, and what about the full time to make what kind of jobs do your students get.
DELL: They actually see.
DELL: What was the editor.
DELL: You see, on message from last one man has a say they used to conduct an examination and also dog door is a gap of one or two years, but the thing is that leads to the day, most of these events.
Mayuri Kulkarni: So what kind of schools dig into you know, did they get jobs.
DELL: moments.
DELL: When primary.
DELL: Primary middle school, they are having sufficient number of schools.
DELL: Because last lot of people are getting retired now, but so this.
DELL: Next group is yep.
Mayuri Kulkarni: And so, how do they look for these jobs, I mean do you like.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Late is it do we have a placement, sale or through newspaper ads or word of mouth, how do these two students used to get jobs.
DELL: placement.
DELL: We are having a curriculum is a part of reports can be.
DELL: Either I mentioned let's go to the field and they can conduct programs one or two or they haven't sunscreens like that and regarding.
DELL: Some some schools private schools are you say outrageous come to here and they connect they select the students rates because of who they are a non use a decision by a business user they used to come over and they get.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Okay.
Mayuri Kulkarni: So, so we have heard from quite a number of.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Teachers and even you know to a lot of other sources that bs teachers once they get out of college, I mean once they have completed their bs.
Mayuri Kulkarni: But do you have a different scenario say because you have both you have teachers who have experienced or two, and you have threshold so, but what we have orders people move out of bed usually get.
Mayuri Kulkarni: done lower grade classes to teach once they get into a school and after some years, we obviously get promoted to above six because that's where they're supposed to teach but is this the truth that you know once they get out there hired to teach lower grade classes.
DELL: Know Islamic number because.
DELL: You see, that it is below at the end of the left.
Mayuri Kulkarni: side.
DELL: That is that is meant for the primary our primary given.
DELL: night and we had East for the secondary level.
DELL: Right, which means again wins this classes from six to 10 years.
DELL: So if you buy forget the students or the basis of their training Program.
DELL: Primary our primary and.
DELL: Secondary secondary history class six to 10 or 20 can say either one page so depends upon and if any percentage wise and under and because of its capabilities, so it is not like that, because what are the government has.
DELL: Both criteria.
DELL: advertisement it's like that to the.
Mayuri Kulkarni: mixer io students who are being pass out.
Mayuri Kulkarni: You know the end to teach lower grade students.
DELL: Right there's no.
Mayuri Kulkarni: No they're not trained.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Okay.
DELL: So So what is this work.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Why primary yes.
DELL: When I psychology taught by the.
DELL: element that is the.
Mayuri Kulkarni: dnn students have you okay so so what proportion of your students seat or want government jobs.
Mayuri Kulkarni: And how many games.
DELL: He said that everybody wants, because this.
DELL: Is a job or mentor once you join it to evil, not to do anything to teach over there and even for war there, and you get a salary as as that so that you can read and.
DELL: This is what is on my teachers Roman law, so I do think anybody is not work because here the plane private schools are not so highly paid.
DELL: Which is on my face, it is not like that, with the private school.
DELL: Today, no.
DELL: It isn't easy, but one thing is that some schools may be that far away from their homes and.
DELL: They try to get the things done, another way to.
DELL: come here is, these are the things that.
DELL: happens.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Is a matter how many do actually get government jobs, I mean what percentage would you say.
DELL: That because that person is already government employee.
DELL: So it depends upon the advertisement how many times a year.
DELL: How many yes it is coming when.
DELL: It comes the because local level recruitment is the.
DELL: context, that is, that is we'll keep it says way through and that statement so on stage Nancy ignorance, in your these men.
DELL: Are for recruitment processes there, I think it is a common everywhere.
Mayuri Kulkarni: So also do you have any affiliations, with private schools for recruitment.
DELL: Some agencies.
DELL: Money they can.
DELL: reach us to conduct some interviews and up and some of the students are working in some and not a business, like the quizzes.
DELL: They have been working on it, because they're having they're having their institutions are there and students have been recruited from this insecurity they're still.
DELL: in that part of the business.
DELL: Those are.
DELL: capable of going.
DELL: To accept it to get.
DELL: Something else to do Center like that.
DELL: Let me guess Is there something.
Mayuri Kulkarni: So, so you know you were saying that government.
Mayuri Kulkarni: job or the CPC Ohio but what do you think is the starting salary of private schools teachers who get employed in private school so.
DELL: It depends upon.
DELL: The bundle locality and mobility, most of the things because the baby less than 6000.
Mayuri Kulkarni: And you also have students are working NGOs in the education sector.
DELL: NGOs, so we don't delay.
DELL: I cannot say no, because in most of the students what even join their information.
DELL: But I know that Sarah Sarah NGOs are working with us working in the system 11 in the are placed in by policy opt in and see if they are, they are working in the field with the new permission.
DELL: So we cannot say how many students are working with the Indians are not because, and then the lady was our NGO select this read from the local people and.
DELL: Then I think I don't think we are having any.
DELL: National even NGOs working.
Mayuri Kulkarni: So, so you will you know couple of minutes back you were talking about other careers that you know students take if they do not get government jobs, but so I wanted to know from you what are those are the career options in education sector, but other than teaching that students can pursue.
DELL: This course is not set to.
DELL: Design man, because I used to whenever I get into the classroom I I I say the student, I am not the seniors and.
DELL: I want to see isn't a director of our various institutions and Danny can you think of.
DELL: A very effective for some time, they made me think they are, yes, we can do that for input, I can say infusion of capital gains Patterson and we'd like to this, I don't think how many are that much capital, because it is, it is depends upon the capacity of this.
Because.
DELL: The.
DELL: problem is that students don't have the.
DELL: English.
DELL: language problem with their language makes them one step backwards, because we don't have a language proficiency event studying.
DELL: So.
DELL: This is the.
DELL: English is the various degrees.
DELL: Which is me, making them.
DELL: One step backwards in getting English English admissions in your jobs in the English.
Mayuri Kulkarni: So it is just teaching that the students get into there's no other.
Mayuri Kulkarni: No there's no other.
DELL: No other way.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Okay.
DELL: Can you tell me one or two that I can focus on.
Mayuri Kulkarni: So I was talking to a couple of other states or so, and he had a similar question that we ask other.
Mayuri Kulkarni: faculties and a lot of them said actually or you know content development as one of the other things that their students pursue for themselves well.
Mayuri Kulkarni: I don't know if, like you said organizations don't work at your place but you know other states where I have interviewed.
Mayuri Kulkarni: They have like little small organizations that work at their place, and they really need someone who's struggling content and teaching, be it has both of that.
Mayuri Kulkarni: And also, for that matter, because we have research degrees, so their students if they don't get anything in teaching.
Mayuri Kulkarni: For some time, they get into content development and that's also something that did you really like so I just thought and share it with you, if you know your students ever asked you for an alternative.
DELL: Because I have.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Oh yeah watching us on Solana monster.
DELL: yo yo.
DELL: you're liable these cases, these easy.
DELL: I think we are back something.
DELL: yeah can do better in that.
Mayuri Kulkarni: yeah.
DELL: I mean there.
DELL: Is.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Today, so So do you and your colleagues face any challenges, or you know with respect to teaching students, you know with say, for example, their attendance the regularity or their you know to motivate them to be interested in the program to you or your colleagues face that challenge.
DELL: It is a.
DELL: Time is a political state that we are not getting proper you know it is not like that any challenge, because you see here, most of the.
DELL: Teachers want to faculty over.
DELL: 30 plus years of experience and.
Mayuri Kulkarni: So many fact that these two you haven't taught.
Mayuri Kulkarni: This is for BA ma ma.
DELL: ma and PhD.
Mayuri Kulkarni: So teacher education in total, you have.
40.
DELL: and generally here we come over here that.
DELL: year the Faculty come from the school education department, those who already are working at least one size on so you can say that that lemon upward teachers well i'm already happy 25 years of experience.
DELL: Most of it, most of the Faculty now we are having his experience that right man experience, so I don't think any sentence because.
DELL: This is the student is coming over yet having to two issues, one is they are they're being acquainted with a new terminology.
DELL: Each and every word is new for them so they cover every guy and he said this type of technology there, they are entirely.
DELL: different elements and another one is is the requirement of the program each and every day, something new, is coming on for the so you don't have time to marry the things are challenging and what is not, because each and everything and going and I.
DELL: can say that it is going on, so.
DELL: Even the challenges there nobody's there to move up or whatever, that is methodology is classmates at.
Mayuri Kulkarni: The time so anytime and just with respect to your tenure or salary or you know opportunities to grow professionally do you face and.
DELL: This is a great interest that we have.
DELL: Because, you see, we are people working in a school education.
DELL: And we are expected to have higher education.
DELL: We are doing internally.
DELL: ourselves as well as in Center.
DELL: city right.
DELL: We are.
DELL: We are, we are in the school education department, so we are being as part of the state government and also the school education, we are not taken.
DELL: Our services are being provided to the higher education we and mono on voting is that UDC Knox are being multiplied so security, development or you can say EPA EPA measurement is not there for this dpm as a mentee is not there, it means what we did was, we are not.
DELL: met faculty faculty is not supposed to do research then they're not supposed to.
DELL: publish the things, and they are not supposed to do anything in order to these are the things that is happening with us so.
DELL: Some female quality is going to hamper because those who I can see myself, I used to publish, as he said, German accent.
DELL: In the name, he said.
DELL: It was it was done since last 10 years I was publishing it by.
DELL: Research and most of the most of the.
DELL: Fake ids sending articles, for me, I used to be having a website also So this is the thing that I do have my passion, but this type of things is not made made compulsory to the other faculty.
DELL: Whatever they come with a thesis only the things we did hiring as if there's a leak in the high school level.
Right.
DELL: So this type of things may happen.
DELL: If we have into the under the utc competence and easy higher education, so we measurement of our performance is done on the basis of ugc.
DELL: Today, and that will be that will improve the quality.
DELL: And everybody need to.
DELL: Study properly and do research.
DELL: Published there.
DELL: is not made the opposite is solar gradually you see that the quality is good.
Mayuri Kulkarni: And is there any issues with respect to nct thailand's.
DELL: entity, we are compromising it well because, once again, you see this in school education department.
DELL: And so on the Professor.
DELL: For the Professor is not not.
DELL: That is being supplied by the government to us so naturally we don't have any assistance officer we don't have an assistant movies that over quality these other things.
Mayuri Kulkarni: And with respect to so your colleges affiliated with that they'll be very much for university right.
Mayuri Kulkarni: So me so you will have exams and timelines that they share with you, so any issues from that end.
DELL: No, we don't we because you know you see, this is the government incentives team comes from our the quantity, except so we just plan for their examination, and this is.
DELL: Because my university is that Barbie the time and not so many not, there is no any day to be taught.
DELL: That is OK.
Mayuri Kulkarni: OK OK.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Also, so you know, a couple of times you bought in the new mvp program, then you end up that has come last year, and it has come during covert so you know after you have read what I our initial thoughts on the full your beard program that it talks about.
DELL: I have seen anything.
DELL: else in the army.
Mayuri Kulkarni: yeah.
DELL: Have you seen it.
Mayuri Kulkarni: i've seen one.
DELL: One out there isn't there is no much problem, but I have seen the central universities various.
DELL: Universities were having some departments of.
DELL: Various types of departments.
DELL: As.
DELL: You see.
DELL: Department of Education.
DELL: degrees.
DELL: As.
DELL: A job or you can say 19 years.
DELL: Which is.
DELL: What is your discipline.
DELL: But your studies.
Mayuri Kulkarni: So it should be, I done.
DELL: Signs almost Alex What about you, I.
DELL: promise you.
DELL: You will see, I run it through the lens of science okay.
DELL: Okay, we never.
DELL: respected the school teachers who used to teach social studies.
DELL: Okay.
DELL: Because we know that when when I read a study about the formulas of a chemistry and mathematics or physics, chemistry like that.
DELL: And these their performance rights and all these other things that we see in the meeting they're eating this type of discrimination he's doing ne SS ids people have faculty upper Center you.
DELL: know the last meeting eat something else and.
DELL: Something else.
DELL: Something that we cannot imagine at the up against something happening there is a.
DELL: lot eating education so they're not been getting for somebody gets a phone support from the students and.
DELL: they're not even worse because, when a student is he is he is he he's more interested in legal miss.
DELL: integral division like that than that of getting knowledge about the.
DELL: national policy, education and watch the large data.
DELL: set.
DELL: he's not that much because he is no other status shows for.
DELL: This is what happens is the science students I don't know what the farmer send us.
DELL: A this is rose rose you met.
DELL: A much respect to the status of education, this is what I have seen in.
DELL: The same thing as mental illness is awesome and we don't have that type of issues, because we are, we are here.
DELL: For me.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Right, but I do think it will eventually lead to improving quality of features across all levels.
DELL: Because you.
DELL: see that the technicolor bts nowadays 8687 years back.
DELL: So after coming.
DELL: This codependent make us each and every at every take it has become.
DELL: ICT expert knows, and if it is the, what are the software and what are the hardware nowadays, I think, is relevant because we can enter for that type of environment is timely moment is a misdemeanor And what are we going.
DELL: to learn, mathematics and I do, I do agree, I do feel that most of the things we teach know he's asked what the requirements of this week.
DELL: It is wearing a long marriage so.
DELL: I do have one, the one problem we can give an example of.
DELL: Social i'm using here in the class live at 11 we were studying about the.
DELL: last one.
DELL: What can you see.
DELL: So last one that I have thought about the.
DELL: Last finance.
DELL: In addition to that, if you see.
DELL: How bad sex can see him from the or the magnesium extraction these other things, so they have none of these students still no have been able to understand why that would get all of this because nobody's having last moments in their own.
Mayuri Kulkarni: home yeah.
DELL: Online we haven't made.
DELL: It really easy for the last 30 days or education, I do miss out to pieces, as finance.
DELL: In the medical now it is 11 in the morning, you know and for the same thing teacher education is awesome so relevancy at that level, it is a.
DELL: city So these are the issues that I have in my.
Mayuri Kulkarni: city also offering the composite program right they're also saying that we should continue along with the folio So what are your thoughts for that.
DELL: yeah man my parties for each and every day of course i'm going to be some.
DELL: Examples of carbon as the component, that I am going to teach the class leaving.
DELL: For DC the content part, I have to add, and in addition to that, I have to make some federal vertical partners.
Of course.
DELL: So now it is, it is not like that yeah I mean VSE a bit longer so they are having a vc program separated and serve a vision for where they're combining it with it is our economic, let me that the content and pedagogy needs to be included emergency.
DELL: Is the if I am teaching the content, then I guess, we can cooperate with a pedagogy part of the.
DELL: Problem of science identity.
DELL: The media side.
DELL: I think it is our level in the.
DELL: Other countries dollar countries because I have walked through the teaching.
DELL: programs of the Six Nations visitor level in a PDF format, what is the teacher education $6 lessons, including America, Japan, so I have seen that there is there.
DELL: Is these are like this, you can say integrated composite integrate them and.
DELL: Most of the time they are the for the internship.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Saying that we are program should work and the four year program should also.
DELL: work together those already completed that each and every.
Day.
Mayuri Kulkarni: And so just one last question it's about over because last two years, everyone has been you know.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Down with Kobe and I think education is one of the bag he sector, you know throughout the world, so how was your university or your institute coped with Kobe what has worked and what has not worked with your Institute.
You see.
DELL: If you talk about this.
DELL: It is being made available to the students, we are having access of ICT and we are doing mobile from the warm except no problem Okay, but here.
DELL: On Sunday mornings.
DELL: see that we say that.
DELL: 70% of the content is go to the body.
DELL: Only 30% equal to the.
DELL: reward Center.
Right.
DELL: In front of the camera like the body language that's not fun so content is moving very fast, I think that content is not required for us to get as well, is it is already on the next person.
Mayuri Kulkarni: And I.
DELL: Said has been reduced like anything.
DELL: We are not be counted out there.
DELL: Though we used to call him because he is quiet and listening to you will be getting.
DELL: Management like that so on that basis of comparison with seven excuses and network, the nine yet current name something something so they can save that identity gave him his work day one, and one on ones we know we are building ourselves better.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Today, so, so I mean difficulties your students faced you know economic medical.
Mayuri Kulkarni: That, if he is doing homework.
DELL: Oh yes, i'm.
DELL: physically because they have affected with.
DELL: The various reasons, we are we.
DELL: are not allowed to come on.
DELL: Stay the hell get.
DELL: Some ideas.
DELL: We have seen that the students have come up with.
Mayuri Kulkarni: So, how was it difficult, was it easy to engage with students in these last two years.
DELL: If he continues what Madam nowadays, you see that examination is made so easy.
DELL: They have been provided with a push of a person, they are.
DELL: asked to submit within five years, five days on like that.
DELL: So they are sleeping and doing the things, and then they live in their home, so I think that difficulty cannot be said, because I can say that we are losing our precious time and the information that that energy that needs to be translated to dismiss.
DELL: Today, well, this is the.
DELL: entrepreneur.
Mayuri Kulkarni: social media and I made both have these field components right, I mean it does have a research and know how for one week and we can see, we sent to students, they.
DELL: nights and our teacher education institutions.
DELL: Okay, local level.
DELL: And the nc the whatever parody see what type of.
DELL: issues are there and how the teacher education institutions are functioning, these are because we are the aim of the bms program needs to make pizza.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Of course.
DELL: or they are there we are.
DELL: The types and.
DELL: So this is we send them an internship.
Mayuri Kulkarni: BA BA not able to go to school right.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Because schools were closed, so how did that.
Mayuri Kulkarni: How did you manage the field components will be in the.
DELL: mirror yeah they used to call it, one leg or something like that.
DELL: But I thought about.
DELL: It but you get to one to 2% that.
DELL: We cannot do, because very close to.
DELL: When the last 10 to lead is getting marks without examination, but students are getting was without exam this anyways without eating it's.
DELL: The same thing is.
Mayuri Kulkarni: And how have you kept the Faculty coped with with the in these two years.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Of.
DELL: Age dental sleep was a big of a deal, I think that makes a role model each and everybody has main components and they have to do in this manner.
Mayuri Kulkarni: And it.
Mayuri Kulkarni: says all over on how would What would you say how covert has affected.
Mayuri Kulkarni: Your both of your programs.
DELL: has affected a lot of things.
DELL: That that due to this far, without we could not because we get together synergy is we are missing the Senate.
DELL: We are spending on a deep sense of no problem, but the thing is the Senate is not yet.
DELL: So, together, we can make a better things that that is missing.
DELL: Is the people come and discuss it is the.
DELL: avenues for the newly certain processes dollar, that is.
Mayuri Kulkarni: OK okay okay Okay, so thank you so.