Mayuri kulkarni: Before we actually begin, like we could begin with a short introduction with your name your education qualification and they know your area of specialization what you know what you eat and what courses, do you eat in the subject so we could begin with that.
Sarla Santwani: Okay now i'm Dr Sarah Larson to me.
Sarla Santwani: I have you know done ma in English literature than vm and PhD in education and after so many years, I also studied.
Sarla Santwani: masters in.
Sarla Santwani: USA but totally.
Mayuri kulkarni: Okay.
Sarla Santwani: So these are my academic qualifications and I have been a teacher educator since last 28 years I know we're all in quite a few who universities and you don't internationally, I know well in our country called Botswana in Africa for more than eight years and then.
Sarla Santwani: In India, mainly I had moved into jira because I belong to put our time from a city called burrow down but Oh, there are.
Sarla Santwani: Okay, so I woke the you know.
Sarla Santwani: included our University in Ms University of Florida, and some to drag university and cut university.
Sarla Santwani: Okay, and then for eight years, I was in Africa and I joined this cages, so my college of education in 2017.
Sarla Santwani: June Okay, and I will be finishing, I will be completing For years this month.
On 15th.
Sarla Santwani: I have been teaching, you know because it's a long career, so I have been teaching so many subjects when I began, you know.
Sarla Santwani: For initial eight to 10 years because my pedagogy I specialized in pedagogy of English language, so I was teaching methodology of English, and along with that I was teaching.
Sarla Santwani: sociology of education psychology of education philosophy of education look a bit of guidance and counseling though it was not a you know, like my discipline but because of the institutional need.
Sarla Santwani: to teach it for two years, at least, then in those days, we had more population education as one of the elective so I had thought population of education.
Sarla Santwani: humanistic education, and when I was a vote swan are there, you know day in school supports wanna they have a moral education is a compulsory subject.
Mayuri kulkarni: Oh okay.
Sarla Santwani: Oh, you know I taught in a teacher education policy model education as a major.
Mayuri kulkarni: subject of.
Sarla Santwani: pedagogy so that was a long time, and here I am appointed as a principal.
Sarla Santwani: So here to I am you know to not teaching any pedagogy subject but teaching various subjects like gender and society.
Sarla Santwani: Okay, and.
Sarla Santwani: Art and aesthetics in education, because that is also one of my areas of interest.
Sarla Santwani: And this year I am I have you know prepared that program entirely.
Sarla Santwani: This year we are starting a new.
Sarla Santwani: feature diploma program in educational leadership.
Mayuri kulkarni: Oh.
Sarla Santwani: I have designed that, and you know totally prepared the curriculum of it.
Sarla Santwani: and looking forward to that.
Mayuri kulkarni: Well, congratulations on that.
Sarla Santwani: Thank you.
Mayuri kulkarni: And now, what other courses or do your in university like your institute provide like emit.
Sarla Santwani: Yes, we have almost all the courses, we have this to your regular bit we're regular amid we have PhD about apologies a PhD Center and we have PG diploma in educational management, since more than 10 years and, from this year we will start this new program PG diploma in educational leadership.
Mayuri kulkarni: Okay Okay, and then, what does still and GT of throws me to take him students for of the end and me.
Sarla Santwani: You know I went and.
Sarla Santwani: Had you know shifted to this two year format they had given the option of one unit to unit one unit of 50 or two units each of 50.
Sarla Santwani: So every call I had to apply.
Sarla Santwani: Along with whatever infrastructure is available.
Sarla Santwani: and on the basis of that you know entity would approve, so we.
Sarla Santwani: have two units for me, and it was only one unit everywhere, but for years they had given an option.
Sarla Santwani: We have two units of beard one unit of.
Mayuri kulkarni: Every oh wow that's huge.
Mayuri kulkarni: So, every year, you have like an identification which.
Sarla Santwani: yeah but you know gradually because so many self financed qualities have come up in last few years, so we are unable to fill all the hundred seats, but you know, on an average, we can see, we have students between 70 to 75.
Mayuri kulkarni: For your equation, it allows.
Sarla Santwani: nvidia any damage we have very few because you know I damage level, most of the students are working.
Mayuri kulkarni: Yes.
Sarla Santwani: Yes, so you know these days as students don't like.
Sarla Santwani: To you know depend on their parents and by the time a student comes to me he or she is at least you know 2526 so it's high time they become economically independent.
Sarla Santwani: And we insist on you know, regularity and so we get very few students like five six.
Mayuri kulkarni: Out of 60 for me.
Sarla Santwani: Yes, and there are some institutions who you know.
Sarla Santwani: advertise it as a regular program but then they don't exist on identity and all there is to it says.
Sarla Santwani: Although we may we have made some flexibility.
Sarla Santwani: That we start our avid classes in the afternoon from two onwards.
Sarla Santwani: Okay, to six o'clock.
Sarla Santwani: hmm so, but even then, you know they finish school is by two o'clock then they have to travel, so not but this year, because you know, he was sure that this is going to last long this Panda we can online, so this year we have 10 students.
Mayuri kulkarni: Because it was online.
Sarla Santwani: yeah okay so, but now ugc has changed, you know, change the rules and they have clearly stated that, for all the programs 40% teaching can be given on line.
Sarla Santwani: One line and.
Sarla Santwani: So we think that you know for Ramadan we will adopt that approach, and probably because there are many students who are keen on doing m ED.
Sarla Santwani: But because of this, you know, and then they they want to be with us in this college, but because of our you know this insistence on a regular attendance at least 80% then they you know, have no option with because it stays the jobs in.
Sarla Santwani: We thought I saw quite strenuous.
Sarla Santwani: It is not easy.
Mayuri kulkarni: So men what proportion of students have would be there in the end and and made some see arts bombers physics or biology.
Sarla Santwani: Or you know, like I do you want me to talk to you know, keeping in mind, only this institution or I have bought.
Mayuri kulkarni: In so many institutional i'm currently where you are.
Sarla Santwani: Okay, so here, you know, like.
Sarla Santwani: I can say that.
Sarla Santwani: We get almost you can say that he almost equal proportion of farmers on science and fuel in your few drama and when you're not unconventional but few from different disciplines like you know now nowadays every year, we have one or two students from engineering.
Sarla Santwani: Because you know in engineering is they don't belong to a desert quota, then they don't qualify for government jobs.
Sarla Santwani: And then you know they have to either leave this place and go somewhere so many of them if they're very good in physics or Max.
Sarla Santwani: They you know, want to become teachers, so I have well you know, every year we get one or two students they're very good in math and physics and then they teach you know nowadays in schools, also they are absorbed with engineering.
Sarla Santwani: And then you know, two, three will be from say disciplines like.
Sarla Santwani: Food and nutrition, or maybe ppa.
Sarla Santwani: or BF these kind of you know, looking divergent disciplines, I would say unconventional.
Mayuri kulkarni: But divergent series.
Mayuri kulkarni: And then you were talking about you know other colleges, where you have stored so even this that's the same.
Sarla Santwani: in Virginia almost the same would you rather Maharashtra.
Sarla Santwani: 22nd I will say that predominantly you know.
Sarla Santwani: In self finance colleges unaided colleges that are you know, in comparison to mind is institution, I will say comma students are will.
Sarla Santwani: be closing and it there, you know it creates a big problem because we come students, you know their subjects accounts and finance and all they are offered at.
Sarla Santwani: You know junior college level or at least higher classes and for those classes master degrees must.
Sarla Santwani: Be he is not sufficient.
Sarla Santwani: You know, when we have to plan their lessons in the schools that time also accept the challenge for us.
Sarla Santwani: And then later on, they end up getting jobs in private elementary schools, because it ultimately they don't strictly look for a year, not this or that subject, it can be like say up to one to four classes, they can teach math English.
Sarla Santwani: Also, that is why you know ncp has decided that now, when is he.
Sarla Santwani: going to introduce that, for your integrated.
Sarla Santwani: Yes, here, the nba CPS they are not talking about because we're.
Sarla Santwani: Okay, you know.
Sarla Santwani: Because some students, they are misfit.
Mayuri kulkarni: Right, yes, yes, and then, how would you describe the quality of your students academic qualification, I mean what proportion, would you say has first class in both did an image.
Sarla Santwani: I mean are.
Sarla Santwani: There, how many good.
Yes.
Sarla Santwani: I would say that.
Sarla Santwani: Every year MBA.
Sarla Santwani: We have about.
Sarla Santwani: State not even five to two for students who get all grade.
Okay.
Sarla Santwani: But a plus grade we have quite confused say about 1010 to 12.
Sarla Santwani: And then he also we have about 1520 students.
Okay.
Sarla Santwani: And we, we would have hardly you know, two or three in the grid.
Sarla Santwani: Okay, so it's a normal probability curve, you know lowest bottom, there are very few.
Sarla Santwani: There, and all all great also there are about three to four.
Mayuri kulkarni: And the same train doesn't emit.
Sarla Santwani: Also enamored you know because of this kind of thing and conditions, those who are really you know sincere and committed view only come for them, and so I damaged we have better students.
Sarla Santwani: were just 2am out all a plus and a not lower than.
Sarla Santwani: me yes Okay, nobody went in the plus.
Sarla Santwani: like this year, we have two only two seniors in ma ma part to only do god's work they're both you know they cleared our net when they were a you know, in the third semester of emmett.
Sarla Santwani: Well, and both of them, I think, God.
Sarla Santwani: Oh great if i'm I correctly remember so at the amateur level, you know be like less quantity but more quality.
Mayuri kulkarni: More quality and then, how would you compare your students so Okay, they make profile with other colleges.
Sarla Santwani: You know, I feel that, over the years, because you know the day I joined this College on 15th of June 19 730 2017 we begin, I received a letter of autonomy from ugc.
Sarla Santwani: process Oh, you know, like be revised, our syllabus before academic freedom and we were not happy with my university syllabus so we revised it and you'll be added, or you know something more, and maybe why you know, like.
Sarla Santwani: up to the mark very relevant.
Sarla Santwani: So you know after that we have built up a reputation that so Maria means hard work, you can just you know go and just get a degree.
Sarla Santwani: is really you know.
Sarla Santwani: Gradually, you know students like this, and after we became university again in 2019.
Sarla Santwani: In August 2019 we became familiar with the university is first private university.
Sarla Santwani: Yes, oh, you know our Chancellor, who is the President of the.
Sarla Santwani: summit so Maria he's a product of cornell and Harvard Harvard University.
Sarla Santwani: So he had his vision is that we want to you know.
Sarla Santwani: Take this university to really Internet, not just for using the term international but in the true sense.
Sarla Santwani: To show people won't believe, but with every institution head and teachers every week, once he would sit for a you know about one to two hours, and you know, see to it, how we are revising the syllabus this is much personal interest, yes, taken.
Sarla Santwani: Well, and our you know syllabus of beard is much more heavier and very, very challenging even more than you know what we had revised it as out anonymous college also, I am very happy that you know, after this was our first year to.
Sarla Santwani: You know, admit students as a students have some we have it via via university, so we.
Sarla Santwani: After you know, and then they were enrolled initially we took a kind of informal survey, asking them that on what basis you decided to join.
Sarla Santwani: So we have it here we are, university so about five students say that we have gone through your syllabus which is put on the website and he found it very unique and very like you know we have.
Sarla Santwani: January, we have two types of electives discipline specific or electives and generic electives so in discipline specific.
Sarla Santwani: electives they will have like your human rights education or education for social justice, which some way, no, they are, but in January January electives they could choose.
Sarla Santwani: Any subject related to management engineering drama takes and we have lots of institution on our own campus so from any.
Sarla Santwani: Science gormless I see one subject at least you know they can study and they can also choose from swam portal, or you know other international photos are there, these days, moocs.
Sarla Santwani: So, you know that we have added and then.
Sarla Santwani: Other colleges, they give only one pedagogy subject of specialization so to enhance their employment opportunities, we decided that he will give them choice.
Sarla Santwani: is written up for single pedagogy.
Sarla Santwani: or they can opt for dual pedagogy.
Sarla Santwani: So if there are four dual pedagogy then for each subjects they will study three papers.
Sarla Santwani: three plus three six and if there are for the single pedagogy and they would statistics papers have the same subject.
Sarla Santwani: Change, so we encourage it by you know, like I said it's not a rule, but you know we advise them that, if you are a you know post graduate.
Sarla Santwani: Then you know, there are more chances that you will get a job at a higher level higher class on.
Sarla Santwani: Here, for you, it is better you offer single pedagogy.
Sarla Santwani: yeah but those who are because they generally end up getting jobs in elementary so for them if they study those subjects, it will be more helpful for.
Sarla Santwani: them, but even though you know if somebody will be gone wants to you know offer single pedagogy we don't force.
Mayuri kulkarni: The agent he enjoys.
Sarla Santwani: So you know our Chancellor he insisted that you know, like American universities, you know about a program should be flexible.
Sarla Santwani: You know, because.
Sarla Santwani: So many you know what is the same.
Oh.
Sarla Santwani: Our motto is you know.
Sarla Santwani: Freedom of possibilities, that is, you know the they have adopted.
Sarla Santwani: He said that we have to you know it is not just to.
Sarla Santwani: right along with our logo, but you don't be.
Mayuri kulkarni: Happy right to decide.
Sarla Santwani: To you know program is the That way, you know, we are very unique from other institutions.
Mayuri kulkarni: And then, how would you compare your students academic profile with other colleges.
Sarla Santwani: As I told you that students by now very well known that you know so Miami is hard work.
Sarla Santwani: Yes, so you know if they are prepared for that.
Sarla Santwani: And they are there are so and another thing is our placement record is also quite.
Sarla Santwani: high.
Sarla Santwani: Very good, so they know that you know this brand name works when it comes to getting employment.
Sarla Santwani: Things like that is also another reason why you know students.
Sarla Santwani: Like This was our first year when we had to do our own admissions earlier, you know department of higher education.
Mayuri kulkarni: So.
Sarla Santwani: We were quite worried that we will, we will be able to get enough students but to our pleasant surprise the bottom and most students that department is to say the.
Mayuri kulkarni: purpose of.
Mayuri kulkarni: imam what proportion of I mean the ratio of men and women would be there and do it and.
Sarla Santwani: that's a very truncated ratio.
Sarla Santwani: As you know, you know this discipline is.
Sarla Santwani: Mostly, you know feminine.
Sarla Santwani: yeah three P get about.
Sarla Santwani: two to four students, even after I came at least, and this is there in Gujarat also but in Gujarat, you know.
Sarla Santwani: Those universities, where the students from Google areas from their number of men is quite sizable because I have walked in Gujarat university where you know some villages are around.
Sarla Santwani: So dad you know he he still kind of sought after profession.
Sarla Santwani: or 10 cities, if you go, it is mainly female and.
Sarla Santwani: Like we every year get two to four students, not more than.
Mayuri kulkarni: Not more than.
Mayuri kulkarni: Men.
race directors.
Mayuri kulkarni: And then, how are more students like admitted in your program now that you're seeing that you're an autonomous, but is there, like do your does your university have.
Sarla Santwani: Their own in our own city.
Sarla Santwani: You know our own CP common entrance test.
Mayuri kulkarni: We are not yours.
Sarla Santwani: yeah so it's our own.
Mayuri kulkarni: Okay, and how.
Sarla Santwani: To add maybe you know if somebody like you know, sometimes students, because our universities knew so many students earlier they don't know so they have appeared for Maharashtra CT and then you know they came to us that we didn't know, but now you know, we want to.
Sarla Santwani: We want to take admission in this college, so we allow them, even if they have clear Maharashtra CT and if they want to join our call it is fine.
Mayuri kulkarni: But how different is your CP from.
Sarla Santwani: Our cities, based on it is.
Sarla Santwani: You know, like formatted.
Sarla Santwani: The same thing.
Mayuri kulkarni: The same thing.
Mayuri kulkarni: yeah.
Sarla Santwani: A lot of might be follow.
Mayuri kulkarni: Okay Okay, and then, what do you think of you know which other colleges that students, mostly prefer or four da da ma.
Sarla Santwani: So it is you know, like one major reason in Mumbai, which I have observed, is the geographical distance you know, students, because otherwise transportation takes so you know a lot of time.
Sarla Santwani: So, usually day you know we'll try to see the best college, which is in you know nearby yeah so like say that in this shampoo that Cooper.
Sarla Santwani: And pour la and you know this surrounding areas.
Sarla Santwani: Our college in La college in shampoo these two colleges are most.
Sarla Santwani: preferred colleges and many our fees are looking higher than chick fil a college so sometimes students, they want to come to our college, they have given our test and everything, but why you know, then sometimes they decided to back out because of the fees.
Mayuri kulkarni: seems OK, and then how many students so take up mathematics or science, while teaching and what could be their profile we add an image both.
Sarla Santwani: yo ma we don't have any pedagogy subject you know academic level they're all education related subjects.
Mayuri kulkarni: Okay.
Sarla Santwani: The pedagogy so it's not only a different level so like science and math every year, we have about the students, you know number of ranges between 10 to 15.
Mayuri kulkarni: OK OK so both nights and 10 is OK, and then all right, you know we were discussing how the Program.
Mayuri kulkarni: me when i'm a program change from one year to two years, so with this change due to the profile of students have also changed the kind of students were getting admitted earlier visa V, the profile of students are getting admitted now.
Sarla Santwani: I led me on you know tell you from my experience, because you know when it was one year I goes as.
Sarla Santwani: far as I mean it was one year I was in jira.
Mayuri kulkarni: Okay okay.
Sarla Santwani: So you know my experience of one year is long back you know when it was funny you know, and there were no unaided colleges, like, I can tell you off, for you know my state where none of the year colleges were on a date into space.
Sarla Santwani: So when I taught for many years that time you know the admission criteria and there were few beers colleges, which were all aided and michelle's we're done centrally.
Sarla Santwani: Yes, so you know, unless you have minimum 60% or more, you will not get admission and many times, we can set to wait for two three years till they get admission in beard and students used to even go to you know other places, live in hostile to do beer.
Sarla Santwani: After you know now there's so many unaided colleges came and then nct meet the criteria is 50% and then this private colleges were all you know ready to take anybody who has 50% and now you know this donations and all initially they saw you know the quality deteriorated.
Sarla Santwani: yeah and then you know I also saw you know that tendency.
Sarla Santwani: In students and then gradually became who we are, so you know when students, they pay higher fees.
Sarla Santwani: In institutions, sometimes you know they I have seen that attitude earlier when it became two years now, it people are used to it, but the initial stages.
Sarla Santwani: I thought you know I I felt that you know people were not happy about to your beard.
Sarla Santwani: And then parents were not happy because you know they felt that you're a beard one year period was very convenient.
Sarla Santwani: Like you know after girl becomes graduate parents are looking for the right through so you know one year they actually means nine months so by that time they they find somebody some magic and then you like was very conveniently one year she's period and then she gets married.
Sarla Santwani: For 20 years was a long time, and then they have to pay fees for two years, so that was a little resistance, but then, because it was mandatory people had no option but then attendance was a big problem everywhere.
Sarla Santwani: And then, many students had the debt.
Sarla Santwani: This attitude that we are paying such high fees, so you should not expect so much hard work from us.
Sarla Santwani: Okay, so you know I used to tell the because I was in America, also for two years, so I used to tell them that in America, the attitude I saw that the time being so, so much so I should get to work, whatever I don't think.
Mayuri kulkarni: yeah.
Sarla Santwani: But here, it was different that when i'm paying so much I do expect so much.
Sarla Santwani: make my life easy.
yeah.
Sarla Santwani: Maharashtra in this college particular I did not find that.
Sarla Santwani: Better is better.
Mayuri kulkarni: In Spain Okay, and then what you're seeing is a social economic profile of students who get admitted in D ID and.
Sarla Santwani: see our feasibility minority college so esper rules first you know 50% seats are for vigilantes but all 50% seats, I mean they are not filled up by vigilantes we get the you know, like every year we get about.
Sarla Santwani: 15 to 20 students work which is not more than that, and then after that you know we have to give preference to other minorities like mostly Jane.
Mayuri kulkarni: So this is language minority.
Sarla Santwani: This is linguistic minority.
Mayuri kulkarni: Stick my nose.
Mayuri kulkarni: yeah yeah.
Sarla Santwani: And then afterwards it becomes open so anybody can come so you know, like, I will say that it is a middle middle class and lower middle class.
Sarla Santwani: Okay, because you know, usually in teaching profession, those who join you know they are not from very.
Sarla Santwani: economic strength.
Mayuri kulkarni: When you.
Sarla Santwani: Land your class and because you know, like students, although our fees are quite high, but then you know from social work department those students who are from desert photo.
Sarla Santwani: And those who are from obesity sorry etc economically backward communities, they also get some type of scholarship from government so not that basis you know many of them enjoy, so we have quite a few from lower middle class and some.
Sarla Santwani: middle class and few from upper middle class.
Mayuri kulkarni: Okay, all.
Mayuri kulkarni: Right Okay, and then, are you do look up stuff Viet and I met both right.
Sarla Santwani: All all program via dammit PhD PhD.
Mayuri kulkarni: or so man or what do you think if the students in da da in MN had not joined this teaching course what would have been there alternatives.
Sarla Santwani: I think that they would be able to say, you know how would I see.
Mayuri kulkarni: What you think I mean you interact with so we.
Sarla Santwani: know I think I you know, like.
Sarla Santwani: With.
Sarla Santwani: The kind of you know, this percentage we get every year we get like about.
Sarla Santwani: Five to 10 students who are above 70% okay.
Sarla Santwani: So they might have gone for you know, some might have gone for other master degree.
Okay.
Sarla Santwani: and
Sarla Santwani: Some might have you know found other jobs which would not be so you know so good.
Sarla Santwani: Because you know.
Sarla Santwani: But just to pick on man, you know it's not a professional degree.
Sarla Santwani: So.
Sarla Santwani: They you know this is clinical jobs and all also you know they are not that easy to get.
Mayuri kulkarni: Yes, yes.
Sarla Santwani: Especially if somebody be any you know sounds every year we get about four to five students who come from regional language background in marathi so for them, you know instead English is not good if they don't have computer skills as well.
Sarla Santwani: They don't stand a chance, even for in a simple.
Sarla Santwani: office workforce yeah so it's so you know, like, I think.
Sarla Santwani: A few data, you know alternatives would be much worse.
Mayuri kulkarni: Man So what do you think would be the motivation for them to join DS or ma.
Sarla Santwani: placement definitely okay employment.
Sarla Santwani: Employment for a majority, every year we might find that to three students who have who aspire for even further studies or PhD level.
Sarla Santwani: like that, but otherwise all of them, you know when we start our placement and, as you know, the students start getting you know offer letters and all those who are still not getting they become very test for it.
Sarla Santwani: Because they're mean a nice, you know it's real life, if you see the whites practical.
Sarla Santwani: Hello.
Mayuri kulkarni: ma'am just one second yeah.
Mayuri kulkarni: Yes, sorry man, this is on foreign so it was causing.
So.
Sarla Santwani: it's To be honest, most of them, they joined for employment.
Sarla Santwani: Okay, and they just one of the major reasons why they joined, because these these students are very smart you know they find out.
Sarla Santwani: From their contacts that you know which college, from which college, you know more people are so.
Sarla Santwani: So.
Sarla Santwani: One major reason for choosing our college is also.
Is.
Sarla Santwani: Also working very hard to find a very good employment.
Mayuri kulkarni: And then, what do you think your students, like the most about the Ba and ma pokemon.
Sarla Santwani: I think God, you know doing internship.
Sarla Santwani: What they you know actually get the real training.
I think.
Sarla Santwani: Initially, you know, because the subjects are quite different from whatever they have.
Sarla Santwani: studied earlier stampede so they find it a little difficult to understand you know theories, the psychological theories and the sociological theories and all right, but gradually they get used to it, but once you know we put them in sports.
Sarla Santwani: And they you know know the real world and they start going to classes and then you know, then I think they find it most useful.
Sarla Santwani: And sometimes we have received even not you know appreciation letters from their parents also that you know the internship part.
Sarla Santwani: You know you have you are really you're not doing well and our children are getting so train that we know when they are actually they start working they don't find it difficult.
Mayuri kulkarni: Difficult yeah yeah and what would be some of the issues that they must face during the program beard or.
Sarla Santwani: Issues on.
Sarla Santwani: Mainly, you know, like they find because we even when we were autonomous and we did not have many extra subjects, but we have to revise the syllabus they used to find the you know the Lord of.
Sarla Santwani: The workload that the load of for learning more.
Sarla Santwani: And then you know, but another thing was very to be introduced.
Sarla Santwani: alternative assessment that not everyone is expected to give a paper pen test.
Mayuri kulkarni: Okay well.
Sarla Santwani: You know that was our big reform in the assessment that we gave them for five options either a quarter, you know writing assignment or kind of what they call in America term paper or you know they could do a presentation in a seminar.
Sarla Santwani: or they could do some kind of field where, if it is psychology related paper, then you know they do some fieldwork they administer you know some kind of psychological test and analyze the results, and so, in whichever field, you know they feel that I will score better.
Sarla Santwani: Yes, excuse.
Mayuri kulkarni: me that.
Sarla Santwani: yeah so low you know examinations we're not a big problem yeah sometimes they say.
Sarla Santwani: Please extend the date and all.
Mayuri kulkarni: That is, you know psychology but otherwise I think.
Sarla Santwani: I mean we have we haven't experienced any main issue initial stage, you know, because the subjects are especially the former students, they have studied accounts and those kinds of subjects and now everything is related.
Sarla Santwani: sociology psychology so they are kind of you know very shocked that.
Sarla Santwani: They they can you know, make a note of it and then former students I don't know go to hear much but in Gujarat, you know, most of the.
Sarla Santwani: classes in college they go to coaching classes every day one or two hours and then.
Sarla Santwani: It is done holidays, they just go to you know enjoy his time spend time with their friends, they do so, you know to sit for sick because beard has a regular all six periods, every day, so they find it very difficult to sit out a day you know, in the.
Sarla Santwani: classroom So for me.
Mayuri kulkarni: Overall, how would they think of the two year period and to your image Program.
Mayuri kulkarni: Overall API.
Is it.
Sarla Santwani: You know, be it because it is a you know mandatory for getting a job, so they don't complain they know that if they want a job you know and without beard they might end up getting a job, but they will be exploited.
Sarla Santwani: Yes, on the basis, you know they will be given a contract you a job less salary and all, so I think for me and they don't you know complain much because they know they are quite smart.
Sarla Santwani: But for.
Sarla Santwani: me, you know they find you know, two years little too much so, you know we have observed that our one year PG diplomas are more difficult than ever.
Sarla Santwani: And he offered this vision diplomas in planted food they are like you know weekend programs.
Mayuri kulkarni: yeah yeah make sure you.
Sarla Santwani: know they can study something they can acquire one more degree, but at the same time, it will not be too much and if I don't get some for me, they will come after some years gap naughty.
Sarla Santwani: naughty naughty music, but for pgd and they have some of them have come immediately okay next year.
Sarla Santwani: or two years me because.
Sarla Santwani: You know I made also it is same please spl and you know practically if you see, I made immediately is not going to help them in promotion or anything.
Sarla Santwani: So this they think that you know why to spend so much on a method.
Sarla Santwani: Where svg diplomas fees is not very high.
Sarla Santwani: High so they think that you are one additional the Green and then financially is not a burden, whereas amid they have to study a lot and initially when they get a job, they are still adjusting.
Sarla Santwani: They still need preparation for their classes, so that time, they cannot.
Sarla Santwani: take up so much of this, so what I met students are generally not a you know freshers immediately after being there, they will be, you know, sometimes like currently those two students, we have one is both say 45 years of age.
Sarla Santwani: because she wants to go.
Sarla Santwani: PhD she decided to join me.
Sarla Santwani: So average student.
Sarla Santwani: will be you know quite.
Sarla Santwani: mature yeah.
Mayuri kulkarni: And that's What about students opinions regarding the teacher eligibility test.
Mayuri kulkarni: pitcher eligibility test the TT.
yeah.
Sarla Santwani: But you know our students mainly don't aim at the government schools.
Mayuri kulkarni: Oh OK.
Sarla Santwani: So in private schools, it is not mandatory, because if you have cleared it then you know you get I think I suppose some bonus points, but it is not mandatory, so not many students have but some of our students are going for accreditation by Center.
Sarla Santwani: And those kinds of things, because some of them have this are you know aspirations for working in each and every year to three students are getting jobs in international some of them also think of that in future, if they are planning to migrate to Canada.
Sarla Santwani: Then you know this kind of Center you know.
Sarla Santwani: yeah those kind of things we help them, so I don't think they are aiming at PT and ot.
Sarla Santwani: O, because I was.
Sarla Santwani: Especially in Mumbai from my college, I have seen, but when I was in China, then you know was maximum number of our students take a PT and their first choice was to get a job in government.
Sarla Santwani: They would be in private schools as long as they find jogging government schools.
Mayuri kulkarni: Okay So what do I have.
Sarla Santwani: seen the my students in this college, nobody wants to work in dnc schools or you know even stay the course.
Sarla Santwani: Okay, minimum they want the CPS he was.
Mayuri kulkarni: sighs.
Sarla Santwani: You know this Cambridge or.
Sarla Santwani: Those kind of things.
Sarla Santwani: Only four five students who come in marathi medium many medium, but they also are not.
Sarla Santwani: Necessary so if it's because, for them, it is not a big choice Whatever the case may be.
Mayuri kulkarni: And so, in what age, do you think the beard and I made program changes in your students of learning perspective so see from the time they got admitted, from the time they passed out how do you see that they have developed overall.
Sarla Santwani: I think there is a tremendous movement, especially you know, like in the skills speaking skills we teach them thoroughly, so you know.
Sarla Santwani: they're they become very proficient in speaking their own pedagogy subjects and with the you know, on this subjects related to social virtue of education and.
Sarla Santwani: Learning theories and all they get lots of insight into you know that the teachers job is not just to give information and knowledge about the subject.
Sarla Santwani: They are teaching, but you must it's very important to understand human psychology and then administrative.
Sarla Santwani: Part even the policies of government, we have introduced one new paper in our new new particular university, and that is policy perspective in education.
Mayuri kulkarni: Where have you introduced it.
Sarla Santwani: In the admin level.
Mayuri kulkarni: In the edge okay yeah the.
Sarla Santwani: policy perspective in education.
Mayuri kulkarni: Okay okay.
Mayuri kulkarni: So so it's like.
Sarla Santwani: colleges or universities have it is an extra you know, I was curriculum as a few horses extra additional so you know it's at is we're pitching much more than or the quality and.
Mayuri kulkarni: Also it kind of sounds like holistic development is not spontaneous but yeah yeah and i'm the CEO of feedback from schools with respect to student preparation.
Sarla Santwani: Oh, students, so you know, like this from now onwards i'm planning that we should have a regular form of, for you know school principals or representatives so that you know we can exactly prepare them accordingly.
Sarla Santwani: But otherwise you know, like.
Sarla Santwani: very general feedback we have found that to your students are good.
Sarla Santwani: And that is why you know they keep on asking when are you starting your.
Sarla Santwani: placement when it starting place, but we want to come, you know, to get your students.
Sarla Santwani: Are other than that specific feedback I don't think they have given, but I am you know, thinking that from after this things become you know normal regularly maybe once in three months or so I want to invite either principles of this is where our students subway.
Sarla Santwani: Or you know they might send some representative to you know find out what are the exact needs.
Sarla Santwani: You know, so that we can prepare you know our students for their real needs.
Mayuri kulkarni: And then, after taking our jobs to your students like keep in touch with you, you must have assured illuminate so I.
Sarla Santwani: had been I wouldn't say you.
Sarla Santwani: Would you what yes, you know, students, they keep in touch when we have alumni meetings you know you know I know on our campus we have very big.
Sarla Santwani: And you nine programs, you know because, for all the institutions.
Sarla Santwani: yeah and our alumni is you know they have financially also help.
Sarla Santwani: You know for certain causes and sometimes we at least you know for one purpose, every year we invite three of value nice when our new batch comes.
Sarla Santwani: Experience college and sometimes you know we also like some of our are you nice work with in medical schools, we call them to give you know some long talk about to you know that extreme cases, and if new methodology, they are you know utilizing in bed.
together.
Sarla Santwani: So you know.
Mayuri kulkarni: that's effects to you with respect to the force or the kind of experiences they hide when they were students or topics of on what they learned and how did.
Sarla Santwani: That help us yeah those kind of worried about a regular part of a city remember our neck has specified just now, we are doing that online every year, we have to take about four or five kinds of feedback from the students.
Sarla Santwani: Okay, is a regular part of.
Sarla Santwani: Because we have to send a report to next.
Sarla Santwani: Year colleges price accurate, is it.
Mayuri kulkarni: Yes, yes.
Sarla Santwani: So, every year we have percent report, and for that we you know collect all this feedback from alumni as well as the current batch as well as ours, we have internship from all the sources, we get that feedback okay.
Mayuri kulkarni: So man viva even talking about TV, so I just wanted to understand that, even if not many students give TV but.
Mayuri kulkarni: Do you think, providing any support for the preparation would help because I know that they do not what they do not apply for government jobs but does it also mean that they do not want government jobs.
Mayuri kulkarni: And if they do want mtt is like the auction what they need to give so duty as a university to provide some.
Sarla Santwani: support.
Mayuri kulkarni: For the students.
Sarla Santwani: You know, like this kind of demand has never come from the students.
Sarla Santwani: On the contrary, you know some students had asked the you know they would like to get prepared for I lead, so we had arranged a you know some classes for a late and all.
Sarla Santwani: But this kind of already you know, they also have played that some of them, they would like to learn, French or some other foreign language so we had arranged for that.
Sarla Santwani: But so far, you know that need has not.
Sarla Santwani: been expressed by students, that they would like some kind of 14 for the D.
Sarla Santwani: Okay, but.
Sarla Santwani: They do you know want us to you know, give them guidance for net and slip.
Mayuri kulkarni: That in session okay.
Sarla Santwani: But we had level we haven't received from the students that you know they would like to.
Sarla Santwani: Whereas in Gujarat, I have seen that you know in some.
Sarla Santwani: Some colleges, they run tech classes.
Mayuri kulkarni: For it.
Mayuri kulkarni: Yes, okay okay.
Sarla Santwani: And some of the faculty members, they have written books.
Sarla Santwani: on how to prepare for pet animal.
Sarla Santwani: Yes, but here and I don't like this college I haven't seen that kind of interesting.
Mayuri kulkarni: So man, there are.
Mayuri kulkarni: You know, some colleges as.
Mayuri kulkarni: You said, where the TT pass rate would be very high and some colleges, where you know people don't use.
Sarla Santwani: Mumbai I don't know.
Sarla Santwani: Nobody I don't know about that at all.
Sarla Santwani: Oh.
Sarla Santwani: I know that these are you know much sought after in China.
Mayuri kulkarni: In China okay.
Mayuri kulkarni: You know what.
Mayuri kulkarni: Do students, so I mean do after completing their beard or I mean I mean do they look for a job or do they go for.
Sarla Santwani: highest yes, yes.
Sarla Santwani: Even before they complete their beard and they get results that they are unemployed.
Sarla Santwani: You know before they're Finally, you know for semester exam is conducted, most of them, because you know the schools once they select them they want them to join, so those who have bought job you know they join, and then we you know, then I just don't timings.
Sarla Santwani: Starting at 10 you know we start tonight you know a lot so like.
Mayuri kulkarni: Actually don't even wait until they complete their.
Sarla Santwani: bs here, because the schools, otherwise you know they tell them that you know, then you know we can't do that.
Sarla Santwani: We don't want them to move, because that is a you know they are doing this professional or spending so much of money for employment.
Sarla Santwani: Right it can't be that you know, like.
Sarla Santwani: impractical.
Mayuri kulkarni: yeah and what kind of scores do they get it.
Sarla Santwani: All types, as I told you that on an average day or two to three students at night be schools.
Sarla Santwani: Right and then major junkin CBS CBS.
Sports layers.
Sarla Santwani: For Darren sm essential things I think state border, but most of them getting CBS.
Mayuri kulkarni: CBS and do you have like a placement, sale or have your car.
Sarla Santwani: Yes.
Mayuri kulkarni: You know, some schools okay.
Sarla Santwani: yeah we can, if you want from our placements and we can give you data on so I don't remember everything because we're not telling faculty Member she's in charge of it.
Sarla Santwani: And he's doing it very well.
Mayuri kulkarni: Okay, so everybody gets placed through the placements and there's no adobe okay.
Sarla Santwani: No, no it's not like that, but yes, our placement rate is quite high, but sometimes you know, like.
Sarla Santwani: Some students, they end up getting more than one offers they might have got something from college placement, but on their own also they might have something.
Mayuri kulkarni: and
Sarla Santwani: You might decide to join them and, sometimes, although they might you know they might be placed, but then you know, because every year, we have some.
Sarla Santwani: students who are married and have kids so for family reasons, sometimes they decide to take a you know, a break of three years.
Sarla Santwani: Young end of this year, we have one student she or she is a very bright student I think she was the first or second in the marketplace so she got a job in for the other she worked for one or two months, but then she decided to you know.
Sarla Santwani: Just you know leave the job because her child is very young and then in this pandemic in whatever situation you know she decided so she she resigned from the job, and he has joined our pitch you to me course because that she can study at home.
Mayuri kulkarni: Right right.
Sarla Santwani: And she said, you know after one or two years, but at least you know that degree, she has now.
Sarla Santwani: You know he is that anytime she wants to work so like that, every year we have some students who get placement, but you know they decide not to join images.
Mayuri kulkarni: And then we ask Lord that you know if students pass out of bs or ma.
Mayuri kulkarni: They usually tend to get lower grades to teach as soon as they pass out, and I mean, so I wanted to understand if this is true and.
Mayuri kulkarni: Does your college of prepare those students to teach in the grades that they get placed into or is there.
Mayuri kulkarni: A you know, a difference in that.
Sarla Santwani: So you know, this issue has bothered us quite a lot and, as I told you that ever become students and really they get job in elementary.
Sarla Santwani: So you know here as forensic a rules, we have to you know now nct allows that you know not only secondary, but we can send our students from classes five onwards.
Sarla Santwani: Okay, but then we had to put this issue before our Board of studies as an autonomous college, we had our food of studies.
Sarla Santwani: So you know, we had told them that we want that you know some of our students now for their internship we should we should also be free to send them to class one and two.
Sarla Santwani: Because it's so happened that you know.
Sarla Santwani: Some of them, you know got in those classes 1234 and because they did not have any practice.
Sarla Santwani: You know they found it very difficult in one particular student she was.
Sarla Santwani: appointed as a teacher and you know she was given class one, and she couldn't handle those very young children.
Sarla Santwani: yeah so the school, you know they say that for one or two years, we would make you in our system teacher, you are not able to manage so that was kind of an eye opener for us.
Sarla Santwani: yeah and we put it in front of what you know in bold of studies are.
Sarla Santwani: The Members, they say that you know you can't break a city rules.
Mayuri kulkarni: That such a.
Sarla Santwani: vital we are of the opinion that you know, they should be especially you know, we know that we can end up getting eliminated elementary schools, so we should arrange and on our campus we have the facility on from.
Mayuri kulkarni: me right.
Sarla Santwani: So, but you know now, since we are our own university we we can do that.
Sarla Santwani: So it is on our agenda that.
Sarla Santwani: We want to you know prepare them for actually what you know they will have to face.
Mayuri kulkarni: The rafters and then what.
Mayuri kulkarni: would be the starting salary of teachers who join private schools.
Sarla Santwani: No salary ranges is very huge.
Sarla Santwani: Like say.
Sarla Santwani: hi highest would be 45.
Okay.
Sarla Santwani: and lowest would be especially those who come from in the in the background and Baraka background they have to work in those regional you know those so their their salary will be 12 to 15.
Mayuri kulkarni: Okay, so all the spooky.
yeah.
Mayuri kulkarni: And do your students also work in NGOs that work in so.
Sarla Santwani: Many of our students are working in our country.
Sarla Santwani: And I don't remember the other names, but and your schools are also referred to by many of our students.
Sarla Santwani: Okay yeah.
Sarla Santwani: So I will be sent them for internship also in India.
Mayuri kulkarni: In angels.
Mayuri kulkarni: Along with school.
Mayuri kulkarni: Yes, okay so monday's NGOs are also schools and not NGOs that work for other like for teacher training, for example, but those are not preferred, so no.
Sarla Santwani: School Magna proper school is.
Mayuri kulkarni: The personal link OK OK, so now, if you, if you like, want to wrap this up into you know what kind of couriers would your students looking to other than teaching, if you want to like just.
Mayuri kulkarni: want.
Sarla Santwani: to let me tell you that, from this year in our pgd me program we have introduced a new subject which is at you premiership.
Sarla Santwani: And so we are you know, making our students aware and kind of drilling into their minds that you know we it or am it degrees, not just for becoming a classroom teacher.
Sarla Santwani: There are many other carriers open like you know you can become a content developer, you can you know if you are good at taking educational technology, then you know, like this educational Apps are coming.
Sarla Santwani: To you know school which virtual.
Sarla Santwani: classes those things are coming or somebody can have you know once own coaching class once own schooling.
Sarla Santwani: And as a part of that you know this was our first year when we introduced this.
Sarla Santwani: course and we had, I had a I am i'm coordinator of that post and I had invited about six some individuals who are entrepreneurs.
Sarla Santwani: And that you know they were doing and not.
Sarla Santwani: Just traditional you know conventional classroom teaching, but something different, like one person is you know, has her own.
Sarla Santwani: Assessment agency.
Sarla Santwani: Oh school assessment agency again.
Okay.
Sarla Santwani: And then you know, there was one.
Sarla Santwani: Who teaches English, not as a school subject but English as a language.
Right.
Sarla Santwani: So, like that you know if for different things they are doing so, we had any was very successful our students, so you know they were inspired a lot.
Sarla Santwani: yeah, but we are you know continuing in that direction we want to you.
Sarla Santwani: That you know you can be curriculum developer, and why not people, some of them who you are so deep into education sector.
Sarla Santwani: You can you know generate.
Sarla Santwani: employment.
Sarla Santwani: on anyone bring them Education Minister can become a policy maker, or you can start a forum no pressure group which can you know, like find a way to pitch to government in formulating the policies.
Mayuri kulkarni: yeah so the opportunities are like.
Sarla Santwani: So we are now working on that.
Sarla Santwani: Before class.
Sarla Santwani: inspector.
Sarla Santwani: Who was and so many things can be done.
From.
Sarla Santwani: Teaching you.
Mayuri kulkarni: know I saw you know we have talked a lot about students and their aspirations and what they find challenging but what about you, what about you, your colleagues what kind of difficulties do your face why you teach your Viet an image students.
Sarla Santwani: You know.
Sarla Santwani: it's a lot of thing I don't know actually you know in this college, I did not have as much because we became autonomous, so you know, we did not have to face a Gemini of the university people.
Sarla Santwani: in St Lucia.
Sarla Santwani: Because I was in politics was not autonomous.
Sarla Santwani: Right and I hear you know in Maharashtra the missions are done by department of higher education, there is an admission certain by the University.
Sarla Santwani: practices, you know education department of university will practice a lot of favoritism.
Sarla Santwani: bias, and you know they have kind of you know, this attitude that.
Sarla Santwani: teachers who work in self financed also they can be taken right.
Mayuri kulkarni: That kind of attitude.
Sarla Santwani: Which because I was very lucky that the day I joined it became.
Sarla Santwani: So, none of those things I had to say car, so this for years, have been very good and you know because we became autonomous you know, whatever I get my ideas you know, I was in Africa, I was in us and whatever put things i've seen there was no score for implementation in.
Sarla Santwani: Particular you know.
Sarla Santwani: I would at least you know some some ideas I could implement so that made me very happy and my colleagues, you know, initially, because they were so much into that by university frame of mind so initially, there was a lot of resistance.
Sarla Santwani: But then gradually you know I in my own way, you know, in a very harmonious way I brought them to eat and they started join.
Sarla Santwani: In.
Sarla Santwani: When it came to university, you know revision of curriculum, they did not protest much they were very happy that now we are moving one step forward but initially when we became autonomous and I suggested that people to you know.
Sarla Santwani: modify the syllabus they were you know not very happy about it, one thing was when you are new, you know as a leader you're not immediately accepted.
Mayuri kulkarni: accepted yes.
Sarla Santwani: And then they were in that habit.
Sarla Santwani: Since so many years.
Mayuri kulkarni: They were at.
Sarla Santwani: The University, so people you know generally human tendency is to.
Sarla Santwani: resist change.
Mayuri kulkarni: yeah thanks so much of what are the challenges that he warrior courage space with respect to say salary or opportunities to grow as professionals to.
Mayuri kulkarni: really think.
Sarla Santwani: So we are you know their their salaries are quite good compared to other cell phone.
Sarla Santwani: Okay, so I think my colleagues are none of us is you know unhappy about it Okay, in fact, everybody knows that no other self finance place would offer them, we are almost comparable to any government.
Mayuri kulkarni: Okay.
Sarla Santwani: So you know no complaints from anybody regarding that.
Sarla Santwani: And you know.
Sarla Santwani: What you know.
Sarla Santwani: I I shouldn't say that but earlier, you know, there was a lot of this harmony among the colleagues and the principal so they were unhappy about it but i'm not boasting or anything but you know gradually like I succeeded in bringing some harmony, so that way also you know, I think.
Sarla Santwani: There is not.
Sarla Santwani: Sure, which was fun things that that even if in the family, you have.
Mayuri kulkarni: To have.
Sarla Santwani: Those things are so I don't think my colleagues also have any issues or you know in in this for years, like none of the issues have reached to higher authorities.
Sarla Santwani: I haven't complained about any of the colleagues or my colleagues have never you know one complaint about me, we have found our way.
Mayuri kulkarni: me so.
Sarla Santwani: yeah cohesively yeah.
Mayuri kulkarni: So then, what about though and cpu regulations do that come into your way also.
Sarla Santwani: Oh yeah they do sometimes.
Sarla Santwani: Because you know when we.
Sarla Santwani: When we were reframing our curriculum after we became university.
Sarla Santwani: Our Chancellor, with some so Maria, as I told you, he would literally take our class.
Sarla Santwani: yeah but how we are modifying.
Sarla Santwani: So, since he is from USA he I mean all these higher education was in us.
Sarla Santwani: So he did not have this kind of, for you know and city limitations in mind, he wanted it to be totally you know, like Harvard and Cambridge and all.
Sarla Santwani: And then we had to you know convince him that we cannot see on the you know and see the framework or together and have alternatives, and we can have we can take liberty up to 30 40% but you know, for that reason we had to keep certain things from nct and plus ED.
Sarla Santwani: And it is why, in our academic Council meeting when we had put our curriculum.
Sarla Santwani: One or two Members, you know the remark that this beer curriculum is too heavy I just wish wish that students don't complain about it okay.
Sarla Santwani: yeah so nct framework and city is here to the rigid.
Sarla Santwani: ugc is a more flexible.
Sarla Santwani: You see, gives a very broad outline barisan city has.
Sarla Santwani: Given quite to you know narrow.
Sarla Santwani: Narrow Member.
Mayuri kulkarni: And i'm also now that you're accountable timelines and all would be.
Mayuri kulkarni: kalia one.
Sarla Santwani: Naked yes, and you know.
Sarla Santwani: Any please yeah I worked on set on so longer than a university.
Sarla Santwani: Right, because you know we don't use the syllabus because now there is no time and since last two years.
Sarla Santwani: We have given students probably two weeks break and we have taken only one, this is our one week break.
Mayuri kulkarni: And i'm taking a lot of times from your brain.
Sarla Santwani: is fine, you know, although our higher authorities, told us that two weeks break you know, depending on each institutions convenience, but we decided, we cannot afford for that.
Sarla Santwani: Because we want you know, whatever we have planned everything should be done, and he says, you know after endemically professionally for classes so two classes, we were taking before lunch in classes after.
Sarla Santwani: and embracing you know, internship and everything's speed on life so we did not cut down anything so that you.
Sarla Santwani: Will dispatch should not be disadvantage because.
Mayuri kulkarni: They shouldn't suffer because of.
Sarla Santwani: Pantheon was a lot of work, whatever students are happy and online teaching when it came first time where students are not at all confident, because what they had learned was you know all these techniques and methodology, because for me, you know regular.
Sarla Santwani: Teaching I also be conducted one week workshop specially for online teaching, then they became confident and then be sent to them for.
Mayuri kulkarni: me delete those were some of the follow up questions of forward, because for the last one two years, everything has been like.
Mayuri kulkarni: not shut down but moved on to virtual online platform, so how was how did your institution, how did your university cope with suddenly being meeting every day physically to now meeting virtually how did your University College students cope with this change.
Sarla Santwani: We have a very, very big it very well developed it department.
Sarla Santwani: So, initially, for us, you know moving all it was looking and new and but then our it department and supported us.
Sarla Santwani: So you know they would also arrange for us now we are used to it, so we you know manage our own zoom link and everything but initially when we were not the you know very family here, we used to inform them that you know we have class every week, so they would you know arrange for it.
Sarla Santwani: Okay, gradually, we have gone 10 students also, of course, you know he and I both feel that we are missing that.
Sarla Santwani: Personal study, but even you know our co curricular activities we have conducted online.
Mayuri kulkarni: Online okay.
Sarla Santwani: We kind of did webinars and our regular meetings and everything, so it is like.
Mayuri kulkarni: not work because of forward.
Sarla Santwani: yeah like you know I every year we do our one major cultural event.
Sarla Santwani: i'm going into college festival refuge.
Sarla Santwani: Where we arrange competitions and being white the all other year colleges were wants to participate in the competition we we give one theme.
Sarla Santwani: And then on team might be folk dances drama and it will be an entire day even.
Sarla Santwani: Today, then, you know even provide the participants food and everything so it's kind of fun day that we have not condemn.
Mayuri kulkarni: You could not.
Sarla Santwani: That is a one thing we have missed whatever internal you know, like that about also be conducted our students, you know even competition because they've created us and they displayed on that basis we gave them, you know.
Sarla Santwani: Okay ranks and all so other than that you know we did everything, but then our annual.
Mayuri kulkarni: festival ended question in.
Sarla Santwani: college at that.
Mayuri kulkarni: Time your students did Dave face any specific economic or medical issues that you were able to help them with.
Sarla Santwani: Of course, you know they are not like above.
Sarla Santwani: In.
Sarla Santwani: vr facing issues, some of the students their parents lost jobs, and so you know the collection, was an issue.
Sarla Santwani: So you know, like we did not force them and then now you know, because some students, as I told you that some students from lower middle class also join.
Sarla Santwani: Because you know they were sure that they will get government scholarship and every year students used to get it, but now you know even government there's not a money they have not provided any funding so from there to make it.
Sarla Santwani: easier, so when he asked for fees, so you know ultimately now, so my management has come forward to help them Okay, at least, you know up to 50%, so we are trying, different different.
Sarla Santwani: phase, and you know we have like you know, many have applied.
Sarla Santwani: For this.
Sarla Santwani: tournament scholarship but from that we have filters and you know say about 15 students who genuinely had problems like.
Sarla Santwani: The Member that family members at obeyed, they had to spend a lot on medical bills, or you know, like one directing sisters their father is a you know taxi driver and then he would not you know.
Sarla Santwani: So all these students, you know management has decided to Nelson.
Sarla Santwani: and others, maybe they will get some help like.
20% 25%.
Sarla Santwani: fee waiver.
Mayuri kulkarni: Much in terms of teaching and coaching academy so covert has not like impacted very bad.
Sarla Santwani: No, not know we tried our best.
Mayuri kulkarni: Okay, oh so i'm just one last question and I won't take much of your time.
Mayuri kulkarni: It is about the new education policy that has.
Mayuri kulkarni: gotten the for your va program, what is your take in that.
Sarla Santwani: i'm looking forward to it, I, like some of the things which they have mentioned what it is, see how you know implementation is done, say, for example, i'm on for promoting regional languages, I myself am product of vigilante mediums.
Sarla Santwani: And English I learned later on to from my college days, so you know I don't like this idea that parents feeling very proud.
Sarla Santwani: That my child doesn't know marathi my child doesn't know English that kind of ignored so with this ignorance our madness and you know I have also been a student of linguistics linguistics my minor subject and it is time and again.
Sarla Santwani: that the children, child innovative creative thinking.
Sarla Santwani: Through.
Sarla Santwani: My own mother tongue or whatever.
Mayuri kulkarni: Language or who.
needed.
Sarla Santwani: So primary education, I strongly believe elementary education must be in either child's mother term or regional language, the language, the child hears all around.
Sarla Santwani: And then gradually you know the.
Sarla Santwani: Second language or language like that so i'm looking forward, but you know with this ignorance of generally generally ignorance of the people that know English medium is associated with Christie social.
Sarla Santwani: Page and then easy to use, you will get very good job and then parents are everyone wants to.
Sarla Santwani: Western Australia and England, so you know.
Sarla Santwani: Study English.
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Sarla Santwani: hello, can you hear me.
Mayuri kulkarni: Yes, yes, sorry sorry yeah.
Sarla Santwani: So you know with this kind of attitude of people in general, how this will you know become successful.
Sarla Santwani: Yet, to be seen.
Mayuri kulkarni: But what do you think about the bh so you know.
Sarla Santwani: I am all oriented.
Sarla Santwani: I.
Mayuri kulkarni: want expecting that quality of teachers can also improve or do you think we live.
Sarla Santwani: I think, once this folder integrated program comes.
Sarla Santwani: Because you know, then they will have to make the decision to.
Sarla Santwani: become teachers very early in life.
Mayuri kulkarni: Yes.
Sarla Santwani: Yes, and then you know, right from the beginning, if they are geared to you know that thinking that i'm going to become a teacher.
Sarla Santwani: I think that will.
Sarla Santwani: make a lot of difference in their attitude and commitment.
Mayuri kulkarni: yeah yeah.
Sarla Santwani: Now, what happens sometimes you know sharpie.
Sarla Santwani: graduate Okay, let me lucky.
Sarla Santwani: Hello beer USA.
Sarla Santwani: COM, or sometimes those who are not able to do anything else, just a call for me as a coach neither teaching docker language or at least people will then take the teaching profession seriously.
Mayuri kulkarni: seriously and man, what do you think should so they are talking about composition program right.
Mayuri kulkarni: yeah there was.
Sarla Santwani: A four year.
Sarla Santwani: degree or a teacher.
Mayuri kulkarni: He created so do.
Mayuri kulkarni: Time one year to year should also continue, or do you think that true.
Sarla Santwani: I think, gradually, it should go.
Sarla Santwani: It right here is not they're nowhere near where.
Mayuri kulkarni: We are, and the folio.
Sarla Santwani: yeah two years should gradually fade out as they have said.
Mayuri kulkarni: Okay okay.
Sarla Santwani: Because, then it will create a kind of discrimination.
Mayuri kulkarni: yeah right right.
Sarla Santwani: So if they you know, like as they have shared that gradually, they will start setting out your and by 30 later.
Sarla Santwani: program will be out, but since you know one thing they have done, they have clearly state that after 2013 the eligibility criteria for a teacher's job would be for your integrated program, so I think once it is launched, people would gradually not come to to hear.
wheels.
Sarla Santwani: on it, for one, it will fail.
Mayuri kulkarni: And fail okay.
Mayuri kulkarni: Okay Thank you so much for your name it was.
Mayuri kulkarni: really nice talking to you and we'd love for your project, yes, and when you complete the project to let me know about your five things and on.
Mayuri kulkarni: Their cynically man and.