Durba: yeah so ma'am if you can, if I know your full name and the College you're currently associated with sorry I know the whole thing but yes.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Yes, yes.
Mousumi Bordoloi: I am props emotionally bottler and i'm the principal of golf bonnie come to college of teacher education okay.
Durba: yeah so ma'am, what is your area of specialization and what courses, do you teach in the program okay.
Mousumi Bordoloi: So actually I have done my master's in English.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Oh, my Baron department is English, but I have done my m ED and I have also done my PhD in education, so now i'm entitled to teach education papers actually and I deal with education papers.
Mousumi Bordoloi: or issues and problems of secondary education.
Durba: Okay, and how long have you been associated with this college.
Mousumi Bordoloi: I have been here since the last 20 years.
Durba: great man.
Durba: up as a no.
Durba: principle you have been associated since 20 oh.
Mousumi Bordoloi: No, no, no, as a principal i've been associated since the last seven years.
Mousumi Bordoloi: it's going to be.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Eight years I stepped into the eight Year.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Old in the month of July.
Durba: Okay man.
Durba: So, can you please tell us which are the program that is being offered at your college or institute.
Durba: And when.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Okay, this college started from the year 1967 Okay, I was not even born.
Mousumi Bordoloi: And since then we have been dealing with the BF course the regular course.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Okay, now it is be a.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Two year degree course we had course, and we also have many short term.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Trading programs, every year we have that and we also have adopted schools, we have two adopted schools where we I send my teachers every year.
Mousumi Bordoloi: To give some training to the teachers of that school and also to show the teachers, how to teach when they themselves teach the school students and, moreover, we have.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Ignore Center in our college.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Ignore Center.
Mousumi Bordoloi: which deals with masters in education, they have the bfa Program.
Mousumi Bordoloi: We have the dealer Program.
Mousumi Bordoloi: And so.
Durba: Okay, so they are using the campus and.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Yes, they are using the campus.
Durba: And do you also have delayed and other diploma course.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Yes, we had been dealing with the elective courses bias and ios.
Durba: OK OK.
Mousumi Bordoloi: We also dealt with breach course.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Where the teachers who have been trained, who has already taken the Ba degree, since the last 15 years back or 20 years back so just to maintain a bridge with the prison methodology of teaching we give them six months bridge force okay okay.
Durba: And what is the nct approve the intake in this in the College.
Durba: Yes, yeah nct approval man.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Yes, yes, we have the entity.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Or we haven't to do approval okay.
Durba: And, yes.
Durba: Okay, and.
Durba: How many students were admitted in 2019 if you can give us an estimate.
Mousumi Bordoloi: thousand 19.
Mousumi Bordoloi: yeah yeah we had.
Mousumi Bordoloi: 50 units in first year, that is 50 sorry one unit in first year, that is 50 students and in second year also we have another unit that is 50 students.
Mousumi Bordoloi: There is a great rush of students and.
Mousumi Bordoloi: candidates to study in our college.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Muslims, it is a pure government institution.
Durba: yeah but.
Mousumi Bordoloi: we're sorry to say that we cannot give the scope to everyone.
Mousumi Bordoloi: It is strictly on married basis, Africa, you see, we actually are colleges, mainly for the deputy teachers.
Durba: Okay.
Mousumi Bordoloi: The first preference is given to the deputy teachers.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Okay, in case some teachers do not come.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Take this training and seats are left vacant in the rest of the seats, we give to the fresh candidates after their true with the quality university and trends we had entrance test.
Mousumi Bordoloi: And that is also on rank basis.
Mousumi Bordoloi: As far they rank in the entrance test, have you.
Durba: Not so.
Durba: So for the DL it also man ma you have.
Durba: Limited you give preference to the police deputy teacher.
Mousumi Bordoloi: No, no, no, no, actually for yet Okay, with the deal it isn't it.
Mousumi Bordoloi: yellow candidates are also all in service teachers.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Okay, who are being given by the Nice and ios.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Okay Peters teacher, so we have nothing to do with that.
Mousumi Bordoloi: We only conduct the training Program.
Durba: Okay okay.
Durba: So okay.
Durba: So now we would like to know a little bit about the you know what kind of student secure admission into your program So what is the proportion of students from arts our stream commerce stream physics on that screen or biologists to.
Durba: Give us just a brief estimate.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Okay What I mean to say is that, as I told you our preferences, firstly, given to the deputy teachers that depends on the government.
Mousumi Bordoloi: So sometimes we have more students want the science dream, sometimes we have more students from the art stream trainees i'm in because we do not have an upper hand at that.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Because that is being debited by the government.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Directly okay PAC that is director of secondary education.
Mousumi Bordoloi: gives us the least of Deputy teachers.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Who are being debited to our institution, every year, so we directly do not have any say in that actually and for the fresh candidates also it depends on the entrance rank the result rank.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Higher during.
Mousumi Bordoloi: The possibility of getting a city in our institution, so that way, of course, there are.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Students from the science stream, there are students from the stream, there are students from the commerce stream, there are also PhD those.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Students also come to our institution, who have already done their PhD but the beard is left so they come to undergo the beard also in our college okay.
Durba: And man, what is the.
Durba: I mean the academic qualification of the teachers so, is it that I mean I can totally understand that you say that it depends on the rank that they get in the.
enchanted.
Mousumi Bordoloi: faculty members or you're talking about the tree exchange trainees.
Durba: For the students two days from the deputies teachers are appointed by state so, are there any bank system in that that the.
Durba: Okay.
Mousumi Bordoloi: They need to be graduates having 55 percentage of marks.
Mousumi Bordoloi: And for the shadows cast shadow tribes and obesity.
Durba: It is 40% okay and.
Mousumi Bordoloi: We see that in case of.
Mousumi Bordoloi: trainees, who are being supported by the government.
Mousumi Bordoloi: There are some cases where they also have less than, say 55% but then.
Mousumi Bordoloi: The government is trying their best to clear the black backlog of untrained teachers.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Mostly, that is the objective.
Mousumi Bordoloi: And so maybe that is why okay.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Otherwise, the criteria as far nct it is 55% in the degree level.
Durba: Okay okay and.
Durba: How do you compare the students academic profile with the other colleges.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Actually, what to say regarding the academic performance, the examination the beat final examination is held in a statewide level state level.
Mousumi Bordoloi: So that way when the result comes out, we can find out where our college students and I in this regard i'm happy to say that mostly government colleges, they deal with deputy teachers.
Mousumi Bordoloi: And it is not a very easy task.
Mousumi Bordoloi: To give a first class to those teachers who have left their college life 15 years back 10 years back 20 years back, but then we have been trying, and I would like to be i'm fortunate enough rather i'm proud to say that since the last so many years.
Mousumi Bordoloi: We are having hundred percent pass percentage.
Mousumi Bordoloi: And, most of them are first class most of the teachers are first class second class only a very few like to maybe, at times, three, four, like that okay.
Durba: And so.
Durba: you're saying it is really great to know that.
Durba: You know the College achieving so much, what is your own assessment of their academic strengths and weaknesses.
Durba: So when the students come.
Durba: In the first year, maybe.
Yes.
Mousumi Bordoloi: You see, are regarding my personal assessment began administrator, it is not mandatory, that I should take academy sessions, with my trainees.
Mousumi Bordoloi: But then, out of personal interest as a teacher, I always have time and take classes in the first year, so when I interact with the students in my classroom definitely I get a chance to assess them, and moreover i'm continuously involved, just like our syllabus has given this scope.
Mousumi Bordoloi: for giving internal assessment marks for giving Mars for the assignment also, it is the faculty members in collaboration with the principal so I get to know I get to know the status.
Mousumi Bordoloi: of my trainees, how much they are popping up.
Mousumi Bordoloi: How much they have done well, where they are lagging behind.
Mousumi Bordoloi: and, accordingly, we take measures.
Durba: Okay, so I mean.
Durba: The last few batches if you can give us an idea what kind of.
Durba: enrollment you had, and what are the what what their academic strengths and weaknesses, because mostly they are deputed teachers and they have been in the practice for many years, if you can throw some light on that.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Actually, what I wanted to say that, though they come with a lot of experience, but unfortunately.
Mousumi Bordoloi: They lack the real techniques and methods of teaching.
Mousumi Bordoloi: So, once they come to our institution they say.
Mousumi Bordoloi: They honestly confess that man, we have been teaching since the last 2025 years 28 years but we thought that we had the best method of.
Mousumi Bordoloi: teaching the students who, after undergoing training, we have realized that all these years, we have wasted because we did not have idea or knowledge about the latest methods of teaching the techniques of teaching the skills of teaching students.
Mousumi Bordoloi: They never had any idea about child psychology they never had any idea what technology that technology played a very important role.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Especially with the starting of the pandemic, we had no other scope but to take hold of technology to be in link with the students, so all these things they have learned, it is not that 23 or 25 years of experience.
Mousumi Bordoloi: is just like having a degree does not.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Know number of years can justify the training program once you are a train teacher is, you are a trained teacher, otherwise you have been teaching accounting to your own methods of teaching, which is not at all suitable I should say.
Mousumi Bordoloi: So that isn't.
Durba: yeah I think this in this pandemic the realization how important technologies and when it most felt.
Durba: I we have been working in Assam and we have also been interacting with a lot of features on the ground and they all have been saying that you know it's the most difficult period because most of them were not even able to reach their students so yeah.
Durba: So sorry.
Yes.
Durba: Coming back to the interview, what is the proportion of men to women.
Durba: In those students.
Mousumi Bordoloi: The publishing differs there sometimes it is out of 50 there are 24 female trainees.
Mousumi Bordoloi: And the rest.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Is a mainstream is.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Sometimes the ratio of the matron is more.
Mousumi Bordoloi: And sometimes it is less so, you cannot actually say I need to go back to data actually for that.
Durba: What is the ratio is okay, it is not that the.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Female teachers or there are only male teachers, it is not that.
Durba: Okay, so it also depends, I think what you're saying is what's data points so a lot of independent there.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Yes, yes.
Durba: And what you said yeah I I, you said that the teachers of state appointed so.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Yes, yes.
Mousumi Bordoloi: That stay muted rather the state deputed.
Durba: yep you did yeah so it will not depend on.
Mousumi Bordoloi: It will not depend on.
us.
Durba: So how I most who did some questions ma'am would be repeated, so I mean if you choose, you can avoid this question.
Durba: So how are the most students admitted into your program and which are the college's preferred by the hide and students, what are the ranks of the students who are admitted into your colleagues, I think you have already answered that but yeah.
Mousumi Bordoloi: I would like to add a little more.
Mousumi Bordoloi: So firstly that.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Most of the our teacher our institution, mostly gives importance to the deputy teachers.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Who are being.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Supported by the State Government.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Next, for the fresh candidates, I would like to say that year before last, they were only 22 deputy teachers, so that 28 of them were left.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Of the seats we left to the fresh candidates and you cannot believe in our college, who for the 20 seats or 25 seats, the number of forms that we have to.
Mousumi Bordoloi: issue of, firstly in day one, we just gave for two days again they went to the university and they requested us to keep the time open also, at last, maybe we had to issue more than 1000 forms.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Only for those 20 seats.
Mousumi Bordoloi: You see what competition, it is there, and as I have seen, or if you can go to the net also who most of the candidates, they choose our college.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Okay, because of its reputation i'm happy to say that.
Durba: that's great yeah yeah how many students take up mathematics and science teaching and what is their profile, I mean you don't have to just bind by your college, you can just talk about the general trained, also because I understand it is not up to you to decide the deputy teachers.
Durba: Yes, yeah.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Actually, you see, I am also happy to inform you that ours is a science college, because you will not be having the science stream.
Mousumi Bordoloi: In any or every be at college.
Durba: Okay.
Mousumi Bordoloi: There are only specified colleges, where we have the science three.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Okay, so we are fortunate enough for that, and when it is a science college so most of the teachers prefer to take science and mathematics.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Because in case of the humanities, it is always the either social science or history or language.
Mousumi Bordoloi: What are the students or the train is also in adapted.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Teachers also.
Mousumi Bordoloi: We also.
Mousumi Bordoloi: We always have a good lot of science teachers.
Durba: Who.
Mousumi Bordoloi: who prefer to take a science and mathematics, as their method subjects.
Durba: Okay, so do do you have add stream also or.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Yes.
Durba: Along with the science, you also.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Yes, yes, we have we.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Have we have score for history we have score for geography, we have social science assamese English, we do have okay.
Durba: And do you think the profile of the students have changed since the two year program was introduced.
Durba: And if it has changed, then in what way.
Mousumi Bordoloi: I don't think, so there is change because, firstly, because of the demand of bs and since, be it has been made mandatory.
Mousumi Bordoloi: More the teacher.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Teachers so the demand is.
Mousumi Bordoloi: always there, whether it is one year or whether it is two years.
Mousumi Bordoloi: The demand is the same everyone wants to have a BA degree.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Just like the train goes.
Durba: I can understand yeah so and what does he do economic profile of the students.
Okay.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Most of them, as I told you, they are teachers.
Mousumi Bordoloi: They come from.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Government schools of Assam hmm so it was not that they come from very high financial background, because you know, teachers, we are also teachers, so we have a proper you see a standard as teachers.
Mousumi Bordoloi: It is not that it's very low neither it is too high and there's a moderate.
Durba: angle.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Because the government teachers, they own good, so it is good it's not that they are financially very I cannot say they are financially very low.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Because.
Mousumi Bordoloi: they're all different, teachers, they earn their own good, rather we should say.
Durba: hi hi yeah.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Sometimes in case on the fresh candidates.
Mousumi Bordoloi: We do have.
Mousumi Bordoloi: trainees, who are from a little bit economically backbone justice.
Mousumi Bordoloi: So socio economic status of those trainees are somewhat.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Low what I have noticed in my carrier as a principal because i've been knowing them we have been helping some before there was no entrance test of G, so, in some cases, our admission Committee also gave one or two seats to those.
Mousumi Bordoloi: economy can be backward trainees.
Mousumi Bordoloi: We have been given OK.
Durba: So now doing Oxford OK, so now, there is no assistantship provided or an internship or.
Durba: Any kind of financial assistance, no.
Mousumi Bordoloi: i'm sorry yeah.
Durba: So.
Durba: If I mean I if they had not joined teaching and you have any time did you have any conversation where they shared that if they had not joined teaching them what would be the alternatives, or what is, what is the key innovation to join the Program.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Okay, the main factor is that what I have seen, they have the urge of teaching they want to become teachers.
Durba: Oh, that is why they have come.
Mousumi Bordoloi: But, in some cases I have also seen I have observed that there are some trainees, who have got better options.
Mousumi Bordoloi: When just instead of wasting the year they prefer to come to the va program, but there are instances of a few leaving our course in between without completion.
Mousumi Bordoloi: And, in those cases, what I have seen, we have observed, is that they have gone for the ACS examination and some of them has always has been true also and they got jobs awesome otherwise besides.
Mousumi Bordoloi: A PC upbringing for a PC we have not found the trainees, who have left the program halfway, or they have other interests they have better interest.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Rather than coming to this their only intention is that they wanted to be true, with the beard course so that they can appear for the tet examinations and nowadays since, be it is mandatory.
Mousumi Bordoloi: So they had.
Mousumi Bordoloi: decided that, yes, after completion of graduation, we will prefer to come under up a dream.
Durba: Okay, and yeah so now within focus on the students perspective So what do students, like most about the Program.
Mousumi Bordoloi: The best thing that I like about the program is that it is not all studies studies studies Okay, there is combination of the co scholastic area also.
Mousumi Bordoloi: They have got assignments to do they have got projects to do they have got yoga workshops to attempt to.
Mousumi Bordoloi: They have got to participate in the college orientation Program.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Where we keep.
Mousumi Bordoloi: track of their co curricular activities also.
Mousumi Bordoloi: So it is a combination, which they, like most they say that it is a real making or developing the personality.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Just like we say that.
Mousumi Bordoloi: You need to develop the personality of the children.
Mousumi Bordoloi: So here we give them a complete idea.
Mousumi Bordoloi: That it is not only a cat makes you have to see all the aspects, whether it association where they just emotional, whether it is moral physical every aspect of the personality is given importance to what.
Durba: I then me shoes, that the students report about the gap.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Yes.
Durba: Are there any issues or challenges that the students have reported about the program that.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Yes, there is a was rather I will not say is there was a program problem or challenge which was very challenging for our training that is.
Mousumi Bordoloi: The medium of instruction of the beard course is actually English, but this government teachers, they do not have mastery over this language, English language so they cannot write you know they are you can say almost below average in case for writing in English.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Though after much debate.
Mousumi Bordoloi: After much request after a lot of brainstorming by the education is the university people.
Mousumi Bordoloi: So, ultimately, they have come to the conclusion, and they have given scope to are the beer trainees to write the answers in their mother tongue, that is assamese.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Those who want, they can also write in essence so after that that challenge part is over, I feel, now, and besides that no other such challenges to be fazed by them okay.
Mousumi Bordoloi: And they say that the course was a huge one, but after the two year program has a syllabus has come in, you know what they have started the program the syllabus gives so much emphasis to I already told you.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Know assignments to projects.
Mousumi Bordoloi: workshop for self assessment, and so the I don't think it's a challenge anymore.
Durba: yeah my next question was actually that or do they think about the new year's program So if you want to add to that you can add ma'am.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Okay, regarding the two year program actually for the trainees, they say that, firstly, they say that meme two years is a long time.
Mousumi Bordoloi: It was better earlier only when it was one year, but once they're involved in this process now they say that yes, two years is also less.
Mousumi Bordoloi: We need more time because there are so many things to be done so many things to be learned so that is the thing Firstly, they say that yes, two years is quite a long time, the one year was better, but once they get involved in the entire process, they agree that yes.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Two years is necessary, actually, because we have to give importance to the practical part also the practice teaching part in first year we send out the trainees to school for the practice teaching.
Mousumi Bordoloi: For one month.
Mousumi Bordoloi: And in the second year, they are sent on internship to the different schools for for long months, so they really get the scope to practice okay.
Durba: I just wanted to ask you one more thing land the students.
Durba: who come, I mean the teachers deputy teachers are they from because I know your college is situated in go hottie so are they from a hearty or from they can be from any district.
Mousumi Bordoloi: They have come they come from all districts have awesome.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Okay entire Assam is in my college.
Okay.
Durba: yeah and.
Durba: yeah So what are the students opinion regarding the exams.
Mousumi Bordoloi: That exams.
yeah.
Mousumi Bordoloi: they're eager they want to give that because they are very committed to becoming teachers.
Mousumi Bordoloi: And since for becoming teachers.
Mousumi Bordoloi: They have to be kept through so they're interested they make preparations for the test examinations okay.
Mousumi Bordoloi: The answer is also okay.
Mousumi Bordoloi: What lines yes.
Durba: So these are for the students who are.
Durba: pressures right yeah fresh.
Durba: and in what way to the change as they go through the program What is your opinion do they learn from them.
Mousumi Bordoloi: you're talking with a fresh candidates on the deputy.
Durba: All all on.
Durba: All yes yeah.
Mousumi Bordoloi: I would have been happy if I could have shown you the feedback forms the realization the benefits they had from the streaming okay once they undertake this beer program what new knowledge they have acquired.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Experiences they have had, and how wonderful the program is and how important it is for becoming teachers, they are very happy, they are very happy I should see their the when they go from this college.
Mousumi Bordoloi: We always go with tearful eyes, they want to stay more.
Mousumi Bordoloi: They say that they have learned a lot.
Durba: Okay.
Mousumi Bordoloi: It has been very fruitful.
Durba: that's great man, what is the main feedback you receive from schools regarding student participation.
Durba: Boarding schools yeah.
Mousumi Bordoloi: yeah when we go for practice teaching.
Durba: yeah yeah.
Mousumi Bordoloi: yeah I feel very happy.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Because we're in case of practice teaching or internship.
Mousumi Bordoloi: More, it is not required for the principal to pay a visit actually.
Mousumi Bordoloi: But I make it a point to visit all the schools where my students go to okay.
Mousumi Bordoloi: And whenever I go the principles of those schools, give me a very good feedback regarding my trainees.
Mousumi Bordoloi: They say that it has been a hunter college and we always welcome the teachers from the bonding hunter college, because they are so punctual they are so dedicated to teaching, they are so good stuff so I feel very happy, obviously.
Mousumi Bordoloi: and me, it is not me alone, it is my team of faculty members my office staff who are very dedicated to the cause of teaching and they have done wonders in this fee, and as a team, we have been trying for the improvement of teacher education.
Durba: Of course ma'am it's a team effort, without that.
Durba: yeah.
Durba: yeah so any feedback, you have received from the students were you know from students in the sense of the.
Durba: know the Chinese have done their practice teaching in some class and the students have shared that feedback, do you have any such experiences.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Yes, yes.
Mousumi Bordoloi: you're talking about the feedback which my trainees get isn't it.
Durba: From the yeah.
Mousumi Bordoloi: When they go for practice teaching.
Durba: yeah yeah Tommy.
Mousumi Bordoloi: I have when I pay a visit to these schools.
Mousumi Bordoloi: And when I say that the program is going to be over.
Mousumi Bordoloi: I have seen the children.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Coming to me and requesting me to keep those teachers to keep my trainees in the schools for good.
Mousumi Bordoloi: So they say that don't take them away so soon we want this teachers more.
Mousumi Bordoloi: wow yes, yes me the children cry also they cry they give cards beautiful cards which my trainees come and show it to me.
Durba: Well, well how many days of practice teaching to the have to do.
Mousumi Bordoloi: One month.
Mousumi Bordoloi: The first year it is one month of practice teaching.
Durba: Okay.
Mousumi Bordoloi: And for second year they go out for four months.
Durba: of intention.
Mousumi Bordoloi: intention, yes.
Durba: So after they take up teaching, I mean they go back to their schools or some some students, the pressures get to teaching to do they keep in touch with you, and what.
Mousumi Bordoloi: They do keep in touch, because we have an alum alumni group where they keep on coming and, moreover, besides that alumni.
Mousumi Bordoloi: forum also there are 10 is more in touch with us, and thanks to technology once again.
Mousumi Bordoloi: We have our own whatsapp group.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Where we are in touch with teachers from I don't know which batch and especially on teachers, they are in case of bonnie can throw the ball our foundation day.
Mousumi Bordoloi: They come and pay a visit also.
Mousumi Bordoloi: So they keep in touch they keep in touch what is happening, how many of them have become headmasters.
Mousumi Bordoloi: What what developments have been taken place.
Mousumi Bordoloi: In their respective institutions.
Mousumi Bordoloi: They come in invite us to their annual functions, so the touches they are more or less.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Not in case of every trainee.
Mousumi Bordoloi: But then, you know, there is a group.
Durba: yeah yeah.
Durba: wow and what feedback.
Mousumi Bordoloi: thing I would like to add here is that.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Due to technology in our colleges, since the last you say five six years we have been forming whatsapp groups for every group.
Mousumi Bordoloi: So that whatsapp Group remains, it is not broken you see that Group remains so for any specific thing they can come to us in groups and they can deliver that's great.
Durba: that's great let's see oh 03 levels this community of.
Mousumi Bordoloi: It really groups.
Mousumi Bordoloi: How the teaching forum, yes, yes.
Durba: And what feedback do they provide on the preparation Program.
Durba: Any emphasis on topics experiences.
Mousumi Bordoloi: you're talking about the feedback given by the trainees.
Durba: yeah yeah after they go back to their own and started eating again.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Okay, sometimes we also are in touch with them and they tell us that not in all schools have Assam because some of them come from very interior places have some interior religions, where technology is yet to be started.
Mousumi Bordoloi: There are no, you can say that there is no supply of current.
Mousumi Bordoloi: How can they think of charging their mobiles or how can they think of smartphones so in those cases, because we have been teaching them that today's teaching has to be technology, Eva.
Mousumi Bordoloi: So, in those cases they tell us that it is not always possible.
Mousumi Bordoloi: To use technology in those backward places, but then they have been trying, they have been starting with mobile phones itself, which we have.
Mousumi Bordoloi: encouraged him to start with mobile phones okay for teaching of language also they can let the children here to listen, make them listen to a talk given by a repeated person so that way, we have encouraged our trainees, to start with the mobile phone itself.
Mousumi Bordoloi: And the one more thing is that, regarding teaching methodology so most i'm give you an example suppose in case of teaching of English, we give stress to using the direct method of teaching English without the use of the mother tongue.
Mousumi Bordoloi: So, most of the trainees would come to us and say ma'am, it is not possible, they do not understand English at all.
Mousumi Bordoloi: So we have understood about the writing skill, but for speech, if the teacher keeps on speaking in English from day one, obviously, by the end of the year Dave will get to understand what the.
Durba: difference was that's a very effective strategy.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Because how that is how we motivate them, of course, they do have challenges they have problems they come to us, and this is the way we motivate them.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Because my policy is that I am a very positive person, so I tried to inbuilt that feeling in my trainees also.
Mousumi Bordoloi: We will have challenges, we will have problems, but the fact is that there is no problem which doesn't have any solution, so if we have a positive mind, there is a solution for everything.
Durba: So.
Durba: Any of the.
Durba: students to have they given me feedback regarding the program that you're.
Durba: It would be great if some changes can happen about the two year program auto de la or anything.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Yes, very soon, yes, very soon, we are going to have.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Four years integrated be a program it won't be restricted only two two years it will be four years integrated be a program.
Mousumi Bordoloi: So, once a child or not child once a student is done with the hs immediately, they can come to our institution to enroll in the four years integrated program, just like in case of medical or in case of engineering course.
Mousumi Bordoloi: So similarly students after doing the hs.
Mousumi Bordoloi: cost to level they can directly come to our institutions to.
Mousumi Bordoloi: enroll into the four years in integrated Program.
Durba: And from the previous two or three batches, can you tell us how many applied for a state state or city exams.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Most of them, and most of the I mentor I am talking with the fresh candidates say out of we had.
Mousumi Bordoloi: The year before we had say 2020 of them gave and 1514 of them got.
Durba: Jobs, also in schools.
Durba: wow wow that is.
Durba: Regulation and that's really a bigger yes.
Durba: And that's the Institute provide any support for test preparation.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Yes, because you see that tip question papers, or the course that is needed for the test is most of mostly from the be at course only.
Mousumi Bordoloi: So the day we we deal with them.
Mousumi Bordoloi: The way we prepare them, it helps a lot, it helps a lot Okay, in a period for the test okay.
Durba: Can you tell us some colleges, where the test pass rate is very high, apart from yours and.
What.
Mousumi Bordoloi: I do not have that data, I can see me about my institution i've been knowing.
Durba: And some inequality, where the take rate is very low.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Sorry.
Mousumi Bordoloi: I cannot tell about any other institutions, but.
Mousumi Bordoloi: In our case.
Mousumi Bordoloi: it's very high okay.
Durba: And what are they where are the students getting employed after completion in the last two years, if you can say that what proportion of students look for a job and which kind of schools, did they find their job in.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Mostly our fresh candidates.
Mousumi Bordoloi: They prefer government jobs.
Mousumi Bordoloi: And, most of them have got common jobs and the rest, were they they have got jobs in private schools also okay to private schools also and some of them, they have also started tutorials.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Are there examples where our students to have them together they started with coaching centers also for is a sorry ACS.
Mousumi Bordoloi: npc.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Okay Okay, do you have examples.
Durba: Okay, and those who caught into prefer public I mean sorry private schools, how did they look for the job I mean it's is it any placement, that you have or some newspaper ad or recommendation, so what is the procedure.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Okay, actually, you know the for private institutions, they do not give ads that way.
Mousumi Bordoloi: There are no advertisements, as such, so what they do is either from references, or they go to the school's themselves and that way they get I mean employed, but the fact is most of the teachers, they prefer government jobs, because there is a security in government.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Job where is in case of you know, the private institutions.
Mousumi Bordoloi: You may be checked out any.
Durba: Others, of course, last and we have been hearing that new teachers are generally given lower grade classes to teach though they have the competencies to teach in hybrid Is this true or where your students place to teach praise for which they were trained on.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Yes, I have heard, because there are some teachers who have.
Mousumi Bordoloi: got jobs in government schools.
Mousumi Bordoloi: They should teaching actually ninth and 10th.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Subject teachers, but they are also asked to take classes in junior classes, they have to take.
Mousumi Bordoloi: As a new one new Emerald.
Durba: And what proportion of your students, the government jobs, I think you have already answered that that most your Center for the government.
Durba: So i'm going to skip The next question also how many students get government teaching jobs.
Durba: Yes, can you give us a number, maybe last two years or last year's numbers, if you can give us.
Mousumi Bordoloi: aware, let me see out of.
Mousumi Bordoloi: 25 I remember the year before the last when the first test was conducted.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Mostly 1414 of them got jobs in different schools of awesome okay.
Durba: And do you have any campus recruitment or affiliation with private schools.
Mousumi Bordoloi: No, no, we do.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Your government institution, I was as a fuel government institution.
Durba: And you can do.
Mousumi Bordoloi: We can do it.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Okay.
Durba: And what is the starting salary of teachers will join the private schools, I mean you don't have to give the exact amount, but you can just give us an estimate.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Right it's talking about private.
Durba: private schools.
Mousumi Bordoloi: private schools, I have known one or two because it is very.
Mousumi Bordoloi: polite to ask about the salary.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Of one on one or two of them themselves came forward to.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Tell me.
Mousumi Bordoloi: That the salary when the joining salary is too low man, they say they are given say eight to 10,000.
Mousumi Bordoloi: To 12,000 so it's too low nowadays okay.
Durba: It does is it, depending on the you know qualification of the student or the academic qualification of the students.
Mousumi Bordoloi: That exactly I don't know, but then it has become mandatory Viet has become mandatory and I don't think so any private school would give i'm in jobs to train teachers who are not.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Be.
Durba: know the body from the is the is it does it depend on the graduation and post production quality.
Mousumi Bordoloi: But beer is mandatory.
Mousumi Bordoloi: They have to be being qualified.
Durba: That I know yeah and do students get jobs in NGOs working in the education sector.
Mousumi Bordoloi: And God yeah.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Yes, yes, because I have examples of some trainees, who have enrolled got enrolled in this server section Okay, it is a project work, but then they have got jobs in that project I came to know okay.
Durba: And what are the other carriers relating to education, that the students can pursue after the.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Most of them after doing their bs they become so interested in this entire course, then they also go to pursue the emmett.
Mousumi Bordoloi: emmett course we it is related to emmett water professional courses.
Mousumi Bordoloi: So, after being they prefer to take, and when.
Mousumi Bordoloi: They come and tell us, men, when we do start me week we have got the no objection certificate from coffee university.
Mousumi Bordoloi: But nct because of nct, we have to be I mean we cannot stop me because it depends on the faculty members, there is a proper unit of faculty members.
Mousumi Bordoloi: And we're a government institution.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Where we cannot recreate our own teachers government has to do that through proper formalities.
Mousumi Bordoloi: And we do not have any hand in that.
Mousumi Bordoloi: So for that we are lagging behind, otherwise we have already got the permission from Karachi university so.
Mousumi Bordoloi: They keep on nagging and telling us the meme why don't you start me why don't you start emmett we are interested to do ma most of them have also gone for PhD courses they've given entrance and they have gone for higher studies also, at the same time.
Mousumi Bordoloi: It is not that all teachers are all trainees.
Mousumi Bordoloi: are only interested in jobs, there are a large number of them who are obviously interested in jobs, but there are also a few who are interested for higher studies and the for that okay.
Durba: And what are some of the challenges, you and your colleges colleagues colleagues are facing with reference to teaching students, it can be you know attendance regularity academy confidence.
Mousumi Bordoloi: There is no issue with attendance because nct has made it mandatory.
Mousumi Bordoloi: That attendance is a must, and we have also started the punching machine only because of the pandemic, there is a stop to that, but, otherwise, we have resistors we have attendance sheets, we have the.
Mousumi Bordoloi: punching machine So where is that the scope and for deputy teachers, it is a must if they are absent for one day, it is a seal counted as a casual leave.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Oh, and they are given only 12 casual leaves in a year so where will they go after that, so there is no question of that that cannot be a challenge for, as I told you, for the trainees The challenge was the English language.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Now they are given the scope to write in SMEs, also in the examination and so that has been met, the challenge has been solved.
Durba: Well, and any challenges regarding.
Durba: Danny or salary or opportunities for faculty development.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Yes, that is a big issue, as I told you, we cannot record faculty members, actually, we are in dearth of faculty members, we have got 13 of them, but we need more to start the emmett course.
Mousumi Bordoloi: To enhance our intake capacity.
Mousumi Bordoloi: As far and city norms so which government is not been able to comply with of course earlier, it was 10 government has already recruited three and we hope that in the near future government will recruit more faculty members.
Mousumi Bordoloi: and, moreover, technology in case of technology, we have taken the.
Mousumi Bordoloi: uc initiative.
Mousumi Bordoloi: To start and make it our technology or we have started the initiative to become techno savvy.
Mousumi Bordoloi: faculty members.
Mousumi Bordoloi: But for that also we need some training programs.
Mousumi Bordoloi: And, in case of the training programs, of course, they are starting now government has started now, but in comparison to the general colleges, it is very less in case of.
Mousumi Bordoloi: The training colleges, so that way, I would like to send my faculty members out for training, to make them more professional to make them more skilled, but then not many training programs are being given for the professional development of the faculty members.
Durba: Okay, and any nct recognition, which has caused the challenges, other than the image.
Durba: Employment lack of features that you say.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Yes, yes.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Otherwise we have fulfilled all the criteria given by the nct we have asked us to give more built up areas they need our society buildings we have everything of that.
Mousumi Bordoloi: We have students common room, we have the computer lab we have science lab we have a big library, so that way our college is quite adequate, of course, we need more classrooms now, and for that also.
Mousumi Bordoloi: We have got the MLA fund and construction work is at present going on for the initiative is taken to build more classrooms and one yoga Center awesome well.
Durba: Okay anything any challenges in reference to the affiliating body or affiliation.
Mousumi Bordoloi: No, we do not have any problem with the affiliated body, because our if you eating body is the gotcha university.
Mousumi Bordoloi: and whatever norms and.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Whatever regulations, they have given us, we have been doing that and nowadays, most of the things are online earlier, the admission process or the enrollment process.
Mousumi Bordoloi: was all natural.
Mousumi Bordoloi: And now it is all online so Accordingly, we have also adopted to the technology that is involved okay.
Durba: So man, what is your view of the proposed a four year program which has been offered in the MEP.
Mousumi Bordoloi: initiative, it is a wonderful initiative.
Mousumi Bordoloi: They have given importance to this training program, just like in case of engineering and medical so teaching profession also is given equal importance.
Mousumi Bordoloi: i'm happy for that.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Now we will have more you see teachers who will be on the real path of becoming teachers, because you see till the earlier times, most of the youngsters.
Mousumi Bordoloi: What they do is they've got nothing else to do they come to take the bfa program undergo this beer program and once they get.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Better score they just run to those programs, but now only those dedicated students who are really wanting to become teachers will come to this program or four years integrated be at course because they will have the urge to become teachers.
Mousumi Bordoloi: And this is a wonderful platform, I think, for those youngsters who would really want like to become teachers or who are really dedicated to the profession of teaching i'm happy and it is very useful also, I think that will be a very wonderful initiative okay.
Durba: So ma'am, what do you think will there be any challenges.
Durba: Implementing this.
podium.
Mousumi Bordoloi: There will be challenges, because you see.
Mousumi Bordoloi: For this we have to start.
Mousumi Bordoloi: It has to be either BA.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Viet or vs CBS.
Mousumi Bordoloi: And for that in our institution also we have to start with the va program and the BSC program it won't be that easy, we will need faculty members, we will need to have advanced infrastructure facilities.
Mousumi Bordoloi: And we will have to have a more of a stuff also because, in order to entertain our general course of BA and BSC you know.
Mousumi Bordoloi: So much, we will be here wanting.
Mousumi Bordoloi: So far, our need whether government will be able to give us all that.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Excuse me.
Mousumi Bordoloi: So that would that may be a challenge okay.
Durba: Do you think I mean.
Durba: With this four year program do you think the one or two year program should also be offered.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Yes, along with it, the two year program also should tag along for the present time, because to get rid of the backlog of android teachers.
Mousumi Bordoloi: In our state till now, we have 48,000 of teachers in government, schools, who are not trained.
Mousumi Bordoloi: And we have to care if we want to have a proper channel, if you want to generalize education in the proper channel, we have to tear that backlog.
Mousumi Bordoloi: And in order to clear that backlog, the government Viet courses to hear, be a process also should be there, along with the integration courses because, for your integrated courses will be targeting the pre service teachers three teachers.
Mousumi Bordoloi: And, whereas this be a program of two years, be a course will be specifically for the in service teachers who have been working in government, schools, but are not trained.
Mousumi Bordoloi: And that is why.
Mousumi Bordoloi: When they themselves are not trained What more can we expect from them how mathematically how effectively, they will be teaching in schools, so that backlog has to be cleared, and for that the two year program has to go on at least for some years.
Durba: Okay, and what will you take, for your Institute to become composer and offer such courses, I think you have already answered that that the teachers will be needed, and everything so i'm going to.
Mousumi Bordoloi: be very interested to start the Ba BA Program.
Durba: yeah.
Mousumi Bordoloi: We have been writing to the government also.
Mousumi Bordoloi: We have been communicating with the government.
Mousumi Bordoloi: So, so that they can give us all the facilities.
Mousumi Bordoloi: that are needed.
Mousumi Bordoloi: To start the big problem okay.
Durba: And yeah so we have come to the last part some covert related questions we have so how is in your institution functioning in this covert period and waters world well and what has not moved.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Yes, you see, due to the coverage situation, we have to cope with the situation.
Mousumi Bordoloi: It is not that we had nothing to do, though, we're staying at home, but we are working from home, we are teaching from home the idea to the online process.
Mousumi Bordoloi: June meetings or true whatsapp groups, the teaching has not stopped.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Due to the pandemic the teaching process is going on.
Mousumi Bordoloi: The our mentors our faculty members are continually in touch with the trainees of first year and second year, they have been conducting classes through online I have been.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Conducting meetings with them through online, so the process has not yet stop one thing the pandemic has done to us one positive aspect is that we have become techno savvy.
Mousumi Bordoloi: That is a good thing for us because we teachers are not that computer effective, we are not that technical savy but due to this pandemic, we are bound and we have developed ourselves in that regard.
Mousumi Bordoloi: And, of course, there are differences between online classes and offline classes, where we have a direct link with the students.
Mousumi Bordoloi: And for that we are hoping that situation will be better and very soon, we will be with the teachers and the trainees in the classroom back in the classroom but today education cannot stop teaching cannot talk and we have been going forward.
Durba: And what are the key difficulties your students are facing them during this pandemic.
Mousumi Bordoloi: During this pandemic, as I told you, the main problem is with the technology, they are not techno savvy and more of them, they have, moreover, they have got problems like.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Most of them do not have smartphones but now we have motivated them.
Mousumi Bordoloi: To have smartphones but then that was a big problem for them, they are not techno savvy so they had a lot of problem in attending online classes submitting assignments online so that was a big problem for them, but now gradually.
Mousumi Bordoloi: They have yeah yes okay.
Durba: Any economical and medical situation that your students or.
Mousumi Bordoloi: No, yes, yes, yes.
Mousumi Bordoloi: You see, firstly i'll talk about the medical part some awful trainees have had the covered positive they came up with copy of it positive.
Mousumi Bordoloi: And we have motivated them, we have given enough.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Knowledge, we had a campaign also.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Just before.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Closing down of colleges, we had a campaign, where we made them aware of what it is what the coverage is.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Now, how what you need to do when you are covert positive.
Mousumi Bordoloi: and, accordingly, we have been giving them ideas and advice regarding how to go to the medical out to go for medical how to maintain high health and hygiene how.
Mousumi Bordoloi: To remain isolated.
Mousumi Bordoloi: And they have been doing most some of them were covered positive now they are over there okay now back to classes again okay.
Mousumi Bordoloi: The economy part.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Most of the trainees, as I told you, their government school teachers.
Mousumi Bordoloi: So of course it is we are thankful to the government that though the colleges or educational institutions are closed down.
Mousumi Bordoloi: But our salary, we have been getting our salary timely.
Mousumi Bordoloi: And so, no problem of any economy problem so much okay.
Durba: And I didn't have any problem to engage with studies and in part from the technical issues that you are seeing.
Durba: Any problem to engage with studies during this distance mode.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Yes, a little bit is there, of course, because the actual offline transaction mode.
Mousumi Bordoloi: can never be compared to the online mode, because in the offline mode, they have enough scope to.
Mousumi Bordoloi: clarify their doubts and to come up with the queries which is not always possible in online mode, because you see online mode is mostly time limited.
Mousumi Bordoloi: invocation of time factor is there because you see suppose a slot is have only one hour.
Mousumi Bordoloi: So, even after that one hour, if you have something to ask also again, you need to go back to the whatsapp or you need to give a call, but in case of colleges when they attend to classes, they get the immediate feedback of their queries.
Mousumi Bordoloi: And, in case the classes over also they can go to the staff room and clarify their doubts.
Mousumi Bordoloi: So, of course, that part is there when they are studying, they are doing the regular studies also they have some queries or they have some doubts, how much can you explain to the wire suppose, they have given you a phone call or a what's upon how much can you explain to the wire.
Mousumi Bordoloi: So physical presence is always better.
Mousumi Bordoloi: So that is there, but then.
Mousumi Bordoloi: There is no stop to education, as I told you.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Have knowledge that is on that is going on.
Durba: yeah just out of curiosity i'm asking them how are you coping up with the practice assignment the you know in school assignment that you have.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Yes, for that also we have been giving them assignments.
Mousumi Bordoloi: They have been doing those assignments actually.
Mousumi Bordoloi: They there are a few assignments, which they need to go to school and do.
Durba: So yeah we call that.
Mousumi Bordoloi: The post test, yes, the pre test, they have already done and it is really wonderful to tell you that our trainees, we have also prepared them.
Mousumi Bordoloi: In case the situation doesn't become better because their examinations are also approaching in the month of September, they have to be prepared with their post test also.
Mousumi Bordoloi: In case, they do not get the scope to meet the students in schools anymore, they will be doing the post test online also okay taking they'll be taking the test online okay.
Durba: And will they be conducting the practice classes online as well.
Mousumi Bordoloi: They have been doing, they have been doing the practice classes online, just like we're doing.
Durba: Okay.
Mousumi Bordoloi: They are also doing their.
Durba: classes on that's great that's great to know and.
Durba: add up all your I mean, I think your cases might be a little bit different but are they able to access device or bandwidth.
Durba: Internet yes.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Yes, yes, yes, that is what I wanted to say in the bfa program we have a paper on ICT.
Durba: yeah.
Mousumi Bordoloi: We have a paper on ICT, that is a practical paper, where we teach the trainees, or rather we introduce them to computers.
Mousumi Bordoloi: They become computer educated.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Okay, that is a very wonderful feature of the Ba course.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Earlier that trainees, who have come to our college college mostly most of them have never even touched the mouse.
Mousumi Bordoloi: They never had any sort of interaction with the computer.
Mousumi Bordoloi: They did not know what are the parts of a computer what to do with a computer, but because of this ICT paper.
Mousumi Bordoloi: They have been introduced to computers and the two devices to take how to take help of the Internet, and now we have been encouraging them to take smartphones for classes, and that is a wonderful boon in disguise, you can say because, with the help of the cell phone itself.
Mousumi Bordoloi: They can do so many things.
Durba: yeah yeah cool man and how have your faculty cope with the situation and How has it affected the program as a whole, this whole covert situation.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Okay, regarding the my faculty members, they have been cooperating very well with me because no matter what they have been taking their online classes, from time to time.
Mousumi Bordoloi: They have been trying their best to finish up the course the syllabus and they have been in touch they have got different groups.
Mousumi Bordoloi: of trainees, with whom they are continuously in touch, so it is a continuous process of evaluation, you can say whether it is online or offline but my faculty members have been continuously in touch with my trainees.
Mousumi Bordoloi: And I don't think so that.
Mousumi Bordoloi: There is a maximum loss of course there are there are influences in case of the practical.
Mousumi Bordoloi: The practice teaching part and the internship part.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Because online teaching will not be that effective in comparison to the offline teaching.
Mousumi Bordoloi: So that way, yes, there is a loss I should agree, I should confess, but then otherwise in case of theoretical classes.
Mousumi Bordoloi: The classes are going on.
Mousumi Bordoloi: very effective that's great.
Durba: So yeah that's it, these are the questions that we had, I wanted to ask you one more thing man, do you know any colleges or any portion where the special education on the physical education certificate.
Durba: are given the CP it.
Mousumi Bordoloi: No i'm sorry no I don't.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Okay, for special education, of course, the for special education, there was a course of vad see suicidality you heard the name I suppose.
Durba: OK.
Mousumi Bordoloi: They have the special VIP program there because I myself went there as a resource person.
Mousumi Bordoloi: to conduct classes in English in society.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Where they had teachers undergoing the special, be it for special children.
Durba: OK OK.
Mousumi Bordoloi: You can just go through the net see Sue charity.
Durba: Okay okay.
Durba: So yeah.
Durba: Okay ma'am do you know, anyone who I can talk to regarding this will make an interview or any physical especially physical education.
Durba: specializing in physical education.
Mousumi Bordoloi: No i'm sorry, not because we took classes they're true one reference.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Her name is.
Mousumi Bordoloi: I think her name is I forgot her name true I think her name is also.
Durba: Okay, and then you can give me the details later also.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Yes, I can give you the details, if you want yes.
Mousumi Bordoloi: You can give your phone number, if you want.
Durba: yeah please message me the phone number, I will take.
Durba: It is, I will and should I give you a reference.
Mousumi Bordoloi: Yes, is to give my reference you tell her that I gave you a phone.
Durba: OK OK OK OK Thank you so much man for the interview, and for your time we will share the report once it is a you know me, then, but my mom is working on it, so what it is, then I will share the report with.
Mousumi Bordoloi: You Thank you so much, thank you, thank you so much for your time.
Durba: Okay goodnight.
goodnight.