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4	Mayuri Kulkarni: So minimum of could we could begin with a short introduction of you know where you're.
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8	Mayuri Kulkarni: Teaching and
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12	Vini Sebastian: So this year on June 11 I will be completing 25 years in the present politics enslavers Institute of education.
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16	Vini Sebastian: This
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20	Vini Sebastian: I have worked in a to nail Polish matey by college and also in St mary's junior college and also one year I have worked in our school
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24	Vini Sebastian: And so that is about my teaching experience and the maximum
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28	Vini Sebastian: Where I was a student also for being so
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32	Mayuri Kulkarni: Right right and what is your specialization.
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36	Vini Sebastian: So in my image know I had more specialization teacher education and advanced educational statistics
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40	Vini Sebastian: Be at college there isn't any particular subject like you know where you can teach for a long time because initially I was stuck with philosophy and sociology.
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44	Vini Sebastian: I was assigned student and I have to teach that but I tried to manage that
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48	Vini Sebastian: So for some time i'm teaching educational evaluation and assessment for learning and I am also teaching action research.
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52	Vini Sebastian: So action to such as my specialization and in the methods we have the teaching methods
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56	Vini Sebastian: Because my Max pedagogy teacher was he has resigned
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60	Vini Sebastian: Now so then from science I shifted to Max.
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64	Vini Sebastian: Max also is a good subject and.
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68	Vini Sebastian: yeah that's it and we have lots of project based courses which all of us are involved in
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72	Vini Sebastian: So I pick up Community work.
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76	Vini Sebastian: With the students hokey pokey man.
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80	Mayuri Kulkarni: And can you can you elaborate on the program programs that you offered in your Institute and since when.
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84	Vini Sebastian: We have we have mainly the sbir program only which we are offering and the college's oldest teacher education college in Mumbai he had started in 1958 That was the oldest for lunch many.
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88	Vini Sebastian: Like top vice chancellor's and the alumnus from your you know the alumni are very illustrious I mean.
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92	Vini Sebastian: We are nowhere like you know in front of them
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96	Vini Sebastian: So that we have recently see we used to have that image course in miracles
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100	Vini Sebastian: Then we all used to have a may contact sessions for idle distance education so contacts sessions we used to have we also used to have early childhood care and education course.
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104	Vini Sebastian: Also
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108	Vini Sebastian: It will attract a lot of gst so we had to discontinue that course
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112	Vini Sebastian: That is going on and recently we collaborated with hbc se and we had a certificate in mathematics education
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116	Vini Sebastian: So short courses
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120	Vini Sebastian: Speaking we had a certificate course on language and English
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124	Vini Sebastian: So
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128	Vini Sebastian: It was only the main thing is the beard.
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132	Mayuri Kulkarni: of being among voters
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136	Vini Sebastian: That is two batches hundred students
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140	Vini Sebastian: So I can get together.
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144	Vini Sebastian: hundred students.
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148	Vini Sebastian: In one batch only 50 seats
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152	Mayuri Kulkarni: Open open.
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156	Mayuri Kulkarni: And i'm so I wanted to know so we want to understand a little bit about the kind of students
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160	Mayuri Kulkarni: We wanted to understand the proportion of students from you know the different streams so arts commerce physics
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164	Vini Sebastian: See mostly know like we have five methods we have English history we have geography economic science and math six methods we have.
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168	Vini Sebastian: Open flow the students will work taken know enroll they are put into these methods
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172	Vini Sebastian: That there are art students and science math students and we have other students from engineering and management all students are also there but they are put into the science.
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176	Vini Sebastian: Okay
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180	Vini Sebastian: When you have 1515 in English and science moments.
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184	Vini Sebastian: Like that we will have.
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188	Mayuri Kulkarni: OK
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192	Mayuri Kulkarni: But is that a Mississippi.
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196	Vini Sebastian: Yes
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200	Vini Sebastian: The Government itself is selecting and giving them the subjects they only select and they see
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204	Vini Sebastian: And that subject should not be an optional subject should be compulsory subject so whatever subject
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208	Vini Sebastian: That it makes a big difference
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212	Vini Sebastian: The content is still we can still work on that.
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216	Mayuri Kulkarni: Right right
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220	Mayuri Kulkarni: Yes
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224	Vini Sebastian: Who they have more more than 80% we have first class months.
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228	Vini Sebastian: So
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232	Vini Sebastian: capability
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236	Vini Sebastian: Because they tell us that see when we go to schools
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240	Vini Sebastian: know they tell us man
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244	Vini Sebastian: Now
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248	Vini Sebastian: But they themselves have to.
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252	Vini Sebastian: go through the content
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256	Right.
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260	Mayuri Kulkarni: We are right so it's the concept that they learn in the school where they need to refresh when we are back in beard right.
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264	Vini Sebastian: And then last touch you know
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268	Vini Sebastian: years after post graduation if they are coming that they are plugging go back to the school and see what they have taught
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272	Vini Sebastian: We haven't they're not in touch with mathematics of the mathematics teacher as a big problem
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276	Mayuri Kulkarni: So it's not just the pedagogy but it's the content
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280	Vini Sebastian: us both we're pretty.
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284	Mayuri Kulkarni: Open I man
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288	Vini Sebastian: You know
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292	Vini Sebastian: Okay same problems exist in other colleges also when we talked to any teacher educator they tell you the same thing I don't know about the academic.
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296	Vini Sebastian: levels.
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300	Mayuri Kulkarni: Okay okay i'm sorry
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304	Vini Sebastian: yeah the men are more like in the car we have eight.
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308	Vini Sebastian: boys and this 42 our goals
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312	Vini Sebastian: or like that the girls are many.
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316	Mayuri Kulkarni: OK OK so.
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320	Mayuri Kulkarni: In terms of 2019 and 20 piece ages
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324	Vini Sebastian: We had full admission.
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328	Mayuri Kulkarni: 200 each.
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332	Mayuri Kulkarni: screen oh okay so
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336	Vini Sebastian: know.
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340	Mayuri Kulkarni: So my man
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344	Vini Sebastian: CDs a by the government only by the State Government.
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348	Vini Sebastian: And then
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352	Vini Sebastian: So
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356	Vini Sebastian: They can apply for the next round.
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360	Mayuri Kulkarni: option in the sense you're saying.
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364	Vini Sebastian: yeah 1010 colleges
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368	Vini Sebastian: college websites and we are supposed to update our websites with small videos of our physical facilities and all the programs
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372	Vini Sebastian: then go to the website and see everything are related to the College.
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376	Vini Sebastian: Also contact numbers of the offices given so sometimes they call up the office and they asked what is the fees and what are the timings of the College and also all those details we give
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380	Vini Sebastian: They come to her college
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384	Mayuri Kulkarni: Also graduation is not taken into.
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388	Mayuri Kulkarni: Control.
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392	Vini Sebastian: What supposed to people have the same CT scores
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396	Vini Sebastian: folks so like that so as they give us
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400	Mayuri Kulkarni: yeah because they have cured the CP.
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404	Vini Sebastian: Yes
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408	Mayuri Kulkarni: right also just for curiosity
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412	Vini Sebastian: yeah we did he sees them.
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416	Vini Sebastian: Then we have vt Bombay teacher training college.
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420	Vini Sebastian: Open which is near eagle in there is same treasonous Hans Raj college and go play college is there for these other like the aided and the top ones
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424	Mayuri Kulkarni: Among what other line so students who are admitted in your college.
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428	Vini Sebastian: ranks mean.
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432	Mayuri Kulkarni: So say like you said right cheeky is something that they need to cave
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436	Mayuri Kulkarni: Really so even tasted 55% for example is the cutout but the savior's would have its cutout list
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440	Vini Sebastian: Actually
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444	Vini Sebastian: High marks
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448	Vini Sebastian: So they also get admission.
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452	Vini Sebastian: Oh
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456	Vini Sebastian: By they want to know.
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460	Vini Sebastian: Why not able to answer that question because we don't know what is the cut out for our institution.
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464	Mayuri Kulkarni: Or
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468	Vini Sebastian: Then what happens no see they give us a list
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472	Vini Sebastian: But we will get they came to the College and they bring all the physical documents so sometimes in their CT form may have not calculated their graduation percentage properly okay i'm not calculated that post graduation percentage property.
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476	Vini Sebastian: For them
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480	Vini Sebastian: Oh
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484	Vini Sebastian: Many people get rejected for whatever is remaining they get that.
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488	Mayuri Kulkarni: Michigan right.
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492	Mayuri Kulkarni: And then
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496	Vini Sebastian: Fine
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500	Mayuri Kulkarni: Of the hundred.
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504	Vini Sebastian: Of the 5050.
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508	or.
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512	Mayuri Kulkarni: 40.
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516	Vini Sebastian: You can take around 20 so 40% of fortune.
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520	Mayuri Kulkarni: Okay Okay
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524	Mayuri Kulkarni: or compared to when it was one year Program.
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528	Vini Sebastian: yeah
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532	Vini Sebastian: oriented towards developing different competencies of the students but
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536	Vini Sebastian: We will not have time because students to discuss their teaching experience with them now
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540	Vini Sebastian: Probably meaning experience and those papers are for a particular semester
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544	Vini Sebastian: So we finished one semester
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548	Vini Sebastian: That we are program is giving much more experience to the students
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552	Vini Sebastian: I don't know how how much it really.
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556	Vini Sebastian: develop the competencies and how much importance it will give to education
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560	Vini Sebastian: Right not know how much it will be.
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564	Vini Sebastian: beneficial.
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568	Mayuri Kulkarni: likely that was a follow up question that I wanted.
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572	To.
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576	Vini Sebastian: know was involved in the syllabus framing of the warrior VSE beard Program.
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580	Vini Sebastian: The education part the pedagogy part I was involved in.
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584	Vini Sebastian: So we did add a number of things
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588	Vini Sebastian: Because we know as science students
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592	Vini Sebastian: They would only studying science only.
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596	Vini Sebastian: Right
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600	Vini Sebastian: Like you know.
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604	Vini Sebastian: They may not be very involved in education subjects than the science subjects
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608	Vini Sebastian: Or maybe I should be proved wrong
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612	Vini Sebastian: You to be beneficial.
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616	On.
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620	Mayuri Kulkarni: money to improving the quality of teaching or the four year program or you think it's.
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624	Vini Sebastian: Since I have this in mind that it may be a secondary.
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628	Vini Sebastian: importance in the entire BSC beard I I wouldn't think like you know it would kind of improve the quality of features.
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632	Vini Sebastian: See I believe in the integration of the method and the methodology that was the main aim of improve we are introducing this vs vs.
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636	Vini Sebastian: yeah I do agree that
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640	Vini Sebastian: Because in the method known in the method paper we are only teaching methodology and we are not looking at the content yeah.
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644	Vini Sebastian: There is knowing degradation of the content and the methodology
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648	Vini Sebastian: Because the BSC teachers and the education teachers should not be separate they should work in isolation
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652	Vini Sebastian: But how it is going to be I don't know because when we made the syllabus the BSC teachers are making the syllabus on their own and the beer teachers are making the syllabus and how are they going to merge with each other.
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656	Vini Sebastian: That is what I am doubtful about so i'm I don't have answer to that question.
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660	Mayuri Kulkarni: Oh Oh
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664	Mayuri Kulkarni: about the composite program right.
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668	Mayuri Kulkarni: Now
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672	Vini Sebastian: yeah they said that it should continue
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676	Vini Sebastian: But only thing this drawback what I said about the content part
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680	Vini Sebastian: Actually
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684	Vini Sebastian: We are taking a one small unit
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688	Vini Sebastian: The students should take large chunks of matter for the entire like they should be proper in terms you know they should take a portion of the walk from the school teacher.
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692	Vini Sebastian: And they should complete that for a class instead of going to number of classes and are you going to number of units and ultimately they don't get out of the content.
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696	Vini Sebastian: Right
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700	Vini Sebastian: Otherwise
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704	Vini Sebastian: Why this one year
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708	Mayuri Kulkarni: OK.
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712	Mayuri Kulkarni: So my motors know let's come back to students now a little bit more on the profile of the students
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716	Vini Sebastian: Most of them are from a baby is only and they are you know also giving directions
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720	Vini Sebastian: You know their own economical sphere
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724	Vini Sebastian: Some of the parents are retired and.
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728	Vini Sebastian: They tell us that we have to go for it
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732	Vini Sebastian: Like elbows.
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736	Vini Sebastian: That they do
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740	Vini Sebastian: So you know I
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744	Vini Sebastian: Something and come the next day suppose we give something for self study or some individualized learning exercises
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748	Vini Sebastian: So they will come the next day
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752	Vini Sebastian: This time
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756	Vini Sebastian: In the school in the College
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760	Vini Sebastian: see their their status is like that you know they have they are more into so we have a middle class and lower middle class people we hardly have elite So then
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764	Vini Sebastian: So they apply for scholarship.
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768	Mayuri Kulkarni: So if they had not joined teaching or beard what would have been there alternated professional
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772	Vini Sebastian: They may be working in some offices or something like that.
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776	Mayuri Kulkarni: Okay
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780	Vini Sebastian: Actually
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784	Vini Sebastian: So that that is a thing
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788	Vini Sebastian: or some people come for convenience some people come for the marriage for for the point of view
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792	Vini Sebastian: Now hardly a few people come for the passion.
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800	Mayuri Kulkarni: Okay i'm i'm.
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804	Vini Sebastian: Actually
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808	Vini Sebastian: When they interact with us know what kind of student
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812	Mayuri Kulkarni: Right right and i'm because we weren't eating
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816	Mayuri Kulkarni: Other things are there for which they need to come back for the for the people who come in for passion
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820	Vini Sebastian: We have a higher goals you know they say that they were like you know I remember now Recently I was in touch with one of the students
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824	Vini Sebastian: You know
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828	Vini Sebastian: Making some videos on mathematics topics of you know and he's putting up a YouTube video so you make such good videos you know.
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832	Vini Sebastian: So he was telling me like I just had a talk with him
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836	Vini Sebastian: We have talking
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840	Vini Sebastian: Some people want to be administrators and they they really want to make a difference in society
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844	Vini Sebastian: People like that
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848	Mayuri Kulkarni: And then want to students
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852	Vini Sebastian: They like all the activities
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856	Vini Sebastian: So all that they like.
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860	Mayuri Kulkarni: Okay
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864	Vini Sebastian: bonding like you know we have between the students know for the different activities
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868	Mayuri Kulkarni: And what could be some of the issues that probably didn't face with respect to the Program.
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872	Vini Sebastian: yeah so the face number of issues like because we are we asked them to number of projects which are very intensive like the assignments
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876	Vini Sebastian: We asked them to do reference and our assignments are not very simple
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880	Vini Sebastian: You know
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884	Vini Sebastian: Sometimes assignments come together
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888	Vini Sebastian: They are not able to keep up to that so that is a thing
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892	Vini Sebastian: We are not giving them the grades
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896	Vini Sebastian: make them understand what is the level of their performance so sometimes they feel that they are working very hard and they are not getting proper grades
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900	Vini Sebastian: So that is an internship is very strenuous because the plan the lessons and then they have to give the next day or game they have to be ready with the plan
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904	Vini Sebastian: They have to interact with teachers supervisor students are so many people are there.
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908	Vini Sebastian: So it becomes very strenuous for them internship is very strenuous
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912	Vini Sebastian: So these people are not used to this kind of work
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916	Vini Sebastian: You know
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920	Vini Sebastian: Then they tell you show us the rule and they say that to see the university saying 75%
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924	Vini Sebastian: According to us if you don't be if you're not present in the class you miss out on so many instructions and internal assessment is going on every day actually.
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928	Vini Sebastian: So that becomes a big problem
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932	Mayuri Kulkarni: yeah.
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936	Mayuri Kulkarni: I think that's the discipline is necessary to get quality.
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940	Mayuri Kulkarni: When I need also man
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944	Vini Sebastian: Over on me at the end of the program they will praise saying that Oh
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948	Vini Sebastian: RU pop icon you'll understand our situation all that
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952	Vini Sebastian: refer students from St xavier's so i'm actually when i'm since i'm when I was a student of this college
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956	Vini Sebastian: So I felt
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960	Mayuri Kulkarni: How.
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964	Vini Sebastian: Do we follow that strategy of teaching ignition pedagogical paradigm of.
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968	Vini Sebastian: That paradigm is value laden and how to bring in values in the.
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972	Vini Sebastian: teaching profession
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976	Vini Sebastian: By never used to reflect in my life.
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980	Vini Sebastian: So you're not learning what is reflection you
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984	Vini Sebastian: After every activity
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988	Vini Sebastian: So that brings in a lot of inward looking
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992	Mayuri Kulkarni: That is why I like to read more about this pedagogy that you.
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996	Vini Sebastian: yeah
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1000	Vini Sebastian: You can see the the way they talk when they talk
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1004	Mayuri Kulkarni: So I think
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1008	Mayuri Kulkarni: Such little doubt but i'd be in the fitness helping them to grow into.
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1012	Mayuri Kulkarni: humans and better teaching and I think it all pays off.
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1016	Vini Sebastian: During the year is very difficult for us to take them along
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1020	Vini Sebastian: I feel you know they're going to become teachers and why are they not you know all the things come to my mind
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1024	Vini Sebastian: So we obviously we have to just be patient and go on and.
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1028	Vini Sebastian: Because
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1032	Always.
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1036	Mayuri Kulkarni: Water narrow payments for the.
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1040	Mayuri Kulkarni: exam no teacher education test oh.
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1044	Vini Sebastian: yeah this
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1048	Vini Sebastian: Anyway
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1052	Vini Sebastian: Because some resource person and we train them on the exam we orient them and he gives some exercises also to them to help them to tackle the questions in the dead and many of them passed it last year 19 of them faster take.
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1056	Mayuri Kulkarni: Out of the.
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1060	Vini Sebastian: Out of the pool.
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1064	Mayuri Kulkarni: that's a good number.
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1068	Vini Sebastian: Okay
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1076	Vini Sebastian: Any we also have them to do the next exam if they are for post graduates and.
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1080	Vini Sebastian: We also promote them to do the net 10 settings and so some of them have done last year we had one student this year
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1084	Mayuri Kulkarni: Okay
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1088	Mayuri Kulkarni: Oh
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1092	Vini Sebastian: They take away a lot of things you know
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1096	Vini Sebastian: Like you know
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1100	Vini Sebastian: placeholder pedagogy is the different regressive pedagogy is we teach them the content also we give them important.
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1104	Vini Sebastian: The core papers and the elective papers are done in an in a very intensive manner with lot of experiential learning strategies we are using.
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1108	Vini Sebastian: In the College
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1112	Vini Sebastian: We have certain modules we make for them so that also they learn how to do it
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1116	Vini Sebastian: For their professional life and then also the since we are two years we embed all our experiences into value based experiences
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1120	Vini Sebastian: Yes
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1124	Vini Sebastian: Before when they did their degree
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1128	Vini Sebastian: So the nba there is lot of collaborative learning we divide them into groups and.
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1132	Vini Sebastian: Are they happy law exchange their thoughts
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1136	Vini Sebastian: get an idea
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1140	Mayuri Kulkarni: Okay
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1144	Mayuri Kulkarni: yeah so ma'am I wanted to also understand the kind of feedback you received from schools with respect to the students preparation.
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1148	Mayuri Kulkarni: yeah philosophy.
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1152	Vini Sebastian: yeah schools give positive feedback for.
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1156	Vini Sebastian: Teaching and most of the schools
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1160	Vini Sebastian: Just wait fathers are there
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1164	Vini Sebastian: They give us feedback
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1168	Mayuri Kulkarni: Okay okay so and also you know after they take up teaching to your students like you said you know you have a huge Alma mater and alumnus so do they keep in touch with you and.
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1172	Mayuri Kulkarni: What kind of feedback do they provide on the preparation of the program because now that they have left to your Institute and gone out in the actual world.
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1176	Mayuri Kulkarni: What do they come back to you and tell you
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1180	Vini Sebastian: yeah so you don't this and the nice thing we are finding it very difficult to keep in touch with our alumni so sadly they do not come so many people don't come back and speak to us.
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1184	Vini Sebastian: Nor do we have a formal association
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1188	Mayuri Kulkarni: wow and.
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1192	Vini Sebastian: offline session they don't come
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1196	Vini Sebastian: Right
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1200	Vini Sebastian: More to that level
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1204	Vini Sebastian: You know
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1208	Vini Sebastian: Yahoo
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1212	Vini Sebastian: In the website
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1216	Vini Sebastian: like that.
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1220	Vini Sebastian: So
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1224	Vini Sebastian: types of schools
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1228	Vini Sebastian: Only one girl said that for your internship if y'all want to just come and see the Cambridge school
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1232	Vini Sebastian: They are very close
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1236	Vini Sebastian: Nothing else they do not
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1240	Vini Sebastian: feedback on the functioning of the College
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1244	Vini Sebastian: And the college's making them ready for teaching
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1248	Vini Sebastian: Right and they they they can modify they can adapt so that is what the ball
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1252	Vini Sebastian: Right.
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1256	Mayuri Kulkarni: And when we were talking about the theory to use it last year or 1972 19 have fast right.
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1260	Mayuri Kulkarni: Yes
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1264	Vini Sebastian: applied the few
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1268	Vini Sebastian: Okay
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1272	Vini Sebastian: After they finished up here
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1276	Vini Sebastian: motivate them to do this
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1280	Mayuri Kulkarni: Okay
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1284	Mayuri Kulkarni: Have bolin people to provide support for the TT preparation content this so you know what can you tell like some colleges
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1288	Mayuri Kulkarni: Similarly
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1292	Vini Sebastian: Why i'm not aware of that they've done i'm not compared it with me.
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1296	Mayuri Kulkarni: Oh
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1300	Mayuri Kulkarni: No
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1304	Mayuri Kulkarni: Also man after the students get him like after they've completed their beard.
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1308	Mayuri Kulkarni: You know what kind of jobs do they prefer for so have you seen so there could be a trend right people to opt for say government jobs or private jobs or any other kind of jobs that they were perfect to prowl do they get these jobs.
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1312	Vini Sebastian: They prefer a date colleges
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1316	Vini Sebastian: So then
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1320	Mayuri Kulkarni: Oh.
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1324	Vini Sebastian: yeah and educational consultants they take up after a very long time because
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1328	Vini Sebastian: And we are now coming to be it can be directly become principles.
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1332	Mayuri Kulkarni: Oh.
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1336	Vini Sebastian: make them.
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1340	Vini Sebastian: Open because they have their own creation and all them.
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1344	Mayuri Kulkarni: And then
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1348	Vini Sebastian: Wednesday it's Wednesday where.
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1352	Vini Sebastian: The schools also remind us when we are going to have the.
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1356	Vini Sebastian: placement interviews
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1358	340
1359	00:43:30.720 --> 00:43:32.910
1360	Vini Sebastian: So we have the table and chairs for each.
1361	
1362	341
1363	00:43:32.910 --> 00:43:44.370
1364	Vini Sebastian: school and then the students go to different schools and they can apply and they get job so and Plus we have to international from Dubai
1365	
1366	342
1367	00:43:45.330 --> 00:43:53.760
1368	Vini Sebastian: scholars and gems international these other schools
1369	
1370	343
1371	00:43:55.500 --> 00:43:56.130
1372	Mayuri Kulkarni: a wonderful.
1373	
1374	344
1375	00:43:57.480 --> 00:43:57.870
1376	Mayuri Kulkarni: Okay.
1377	
1378	345
1379	00:43:59.070 --> 00:44:15.210
1380	Mayuri Kulkarni: So you know
1381	
1382	346
1383	00:44:15.270 --> 00:44:21.000
1384	Vini Sebastian: place now international schools that they are not very competent to teach the secondary.
1385	
1386	347
1387	00:44:21.570 --> 00:44:33.300
1388	Vini Sebastian: Schools standard
1389	
1390	348
1391	00:44:33.900 --> 00:44:42.060
1392	Vini Sebastian: don't take up those jobs once they know that the beads are not going to take up these jobs and they will stop appointing and they will appoint you in higher standards and.
1393	
1394	349
1395	00:44:42.300 --> 00:44:44.040
1396	Vini Sebastian: You know
1397	
1398	350
1399	00:44:44.070 --> 00:44:45.450
1400	Mayuri Kulkarni: Primary students side.
1401	
1402	351
1403	00:44:45.510 --> 00:44:53.250
1404	Vini Sebastian: I said
1405	
1406	352
1407	00:44:53.610 --> 00:45:01.020
1408	Vini Sebastian: And we have not thought you'd strategies to page the smaller children So how do you like
1409	
1410	353
1411	00:45:01.350 --> 00:45:07.650
1412	Vini Sebastian: And the pitching will become monotonous
1413	
1414	354
1415	00:45:08.100 --> 00:45:14.010
1416	Vini Sebastian: Please deny those kind of jobs actually to church to students
1417	
1418	355
1419	00:45:14.460 --> 00:45:26.760
1420	Vini Sebastian: And I very emphatically told them not to be done with this and then from that day I was praying for them
1421	
1422	356
1423	00:45:27.240 --> 00:45:34.710
1424	Vini Sebastian: They trying to be at least about six standard know I said you're trained to peak secondary schools not primary schools to.
1425	
1426	357
1427	00:45:34.740 --> 00:45:41.700
1428	Vini Sebastian: buy so it doesn't mean if you're taught to secondary we are praying to for secondary you are all you can be an 11.
1429	
1430	358
1431	00:45:41.940 --> 00:45:50.340
1432	Vini Sebastian: By 17 higher education also I said that's a different way of teaching and this lower level gnosis a different way of bianca please don't take up I said.
1433	
1434	359
1435	00:45:50.610 --> 00:46:01.290
1436	Vini Sebastian: Yes
1437	
1438	360
1439	00:46:02.310 --> 00:46:04.530
1440	Vini Sebastian: They got the money from their own salary.
1441	
1442	361
1443	00:46:05.160 --> 00:46:08.130
1444	Vini Sebastian: So they have to pay for that training Program.
1445	
1446	362
1447	00:46:08.430 --> 00:46:15.360
1448	Vini Sebastian: Some schools sponsor but then you know they have to pay for that additional training program and then they employ them.
1449	
1450	363
1451	00:46:16.680 --> 00:46:20.220
1452	Vini Sebastian: For a higher standard
1453	
1454	364
1455	00:46:21.870 --> 00:46:31.020
1456	Mayuri Kulkarni: So after be at once they get placed into these Ivy schools
1457	
1458	365
1459	00:46:31.200 --> 00:46:35.010
1460	Mayuri Kulkarni: Yes
1461	
1462	366
1463	00:46:36.210 --> 00:46:37.140
1464	Vini Sebastian: yeah yeah.
1465	
1466	367
1467	00:46:38.070 --> 00:46:43.320
1468	Mayuri Kulkarni: And then
1469	
1470	368
1471	00:46:43.890 --> 00:46:45.720
1472	Vini Sebastian: Oh
1473	
1474	369
1475	00:46:47.700 --> 00:46:48.000
1476	Vini Sebastian: Because.
1477	
1478	370
1479	00:46:49.380 --> 00:46:50.520
1480	Vini Sebastian: You mean hated school.
1481	
1482	371
1483	00:46:50.640 --> 00:46:51.330
1484	Mayuri Kulkarni: Yes
1485	
1486	372
1487	00:46:51.360 --> 00:46:58.440
1488	Vini Sebastian: So you did was we wanted
1489	
1490	373
1491	00:46:59.190 --> 00:47:00.600
1492	Vini Sebastian: They want even money for the.
1493	
1494	374
1495	00:47:00.930 --> 00:47:14.250
1496	Vini Sebastian: peanut convince them that after three years
1497	
1498	375
1499	00:47:14.520 --> 00:47:18.660
1500	Vini Sebastian: When the children are not looking for security
1501	
1502	376
1503	00:47:19.020 --> 00:47:24.360
1504	Vini Sebastian: They want to be more innovative and they don't have this idea of remaining in one institution for a long time.
1505	
1506	377
1507	00:47:24.930 --> 00:47:26.820
1508	Vini Sebastian: That is one thing I learned
1509	
1510	378
1511	00:47:27.270 --> 00:47:35.760
1512	Vini Sebastian: They they are not saying that they will get using So when I give advice
1513	
1514	379
1515	00:47:35.940 --> 00:47:45.060
1516	Vini Sebastian: No ma'am
1517	
1518	380
1519	00:47:45.540 --> 00:47:48.450
1520	Mayuri Kulkarni: yeah generation is changing.
1521	
1522	381
1523	00:47:49.830 --> 00:47:50.130
1524	Mayuri Kulkarni: Right.
1525	
1526	382
1527	00:47:51.120 --> 00:47:56.340
1528	Mayuri Kulkarni: Okay
1529	
1530	383
1531	00:47:57.510 --> 00:48:07.980
1532	Mayuri Kulkarni: You know interview and take your students and offer them teaching good So do you have affiliations
1533	
1534	384
1535	00:48:08.310 --> 00:48:09.510
1536	Mayuri Kulkarni: Your placement.
1537	
1538	385
1539	00:48:10.380 --> 00:48:17.730
1540	Vini Sebastian: New affiliations
1541	
1542	386
1543	00:48:17.850 --> 00:48:32.940
1544	Vini Sebastian: Okay
1545	
1546	387
1547	00:48:33.000 --> 00:48:36.000
1548	Mayuri Kulkarni: To finish
1549	
1550	388
1551	00:48:37.200 --> 00:48:42.150
1552	Mayuri Kulkarni: Generally i'm order to understand the starting salary of the teachers who join these private schools.
1553	
1554	389
1555	00:48:42.420 --> 00:48:48.240
1556	Vini Sebastian: How much private schools to be 25 to 30 or 3530.
1557	
1558	390
1559	00:48:48.810 --> 00:48:52.230
1560	Mayuri Kulkarni: And does this way
1561	
1562	391
1563	00:48:53.490 --> 00:48:57.180
1564	Vini Sebastian: No
1565	
1566	392
1567	00:48:57.690 --> 00:49:00.060
1568	Vini Sebastian: Okay
1569	
1570	393
1571	00:49:00.090 --> 00:49:04.890
1572	Mayuri Kulkarni: Be will be only or differences primary and secondary but not exactly the green.
1573	
1574	394
1575	00:49:05.220 --> 00:49:09.510
1576	Mayuri Kulkarni: room open and then today good jobs in NGOs.
1577	
1578	395
1579	00:49:09.960 --> 00:49:19.530
1580	Vini Sebastian: Yes
1581	
1582	396
1583	00:49:20.310 --> 00:49:23.250
1584	Vini Sebastian: Okay
1585	
1586	397
1587	00:49:23.580 --> 00:49:24.090
1588	Mayuri Kulkarni: In June.
1589	
1590	398
1591	00:49:25.260 --> 00:49:31.770
1592	Mayuri Kulkarni: And then say NGOs or private school is there any outdoor education barrier that you're storing.
1593	
1594	399
1595	00:49:31.980 --> 00:49:34.860
1596	Vini Sebastian: Cheap or a secondary content writing is then also.
1597	
1598	400
1599	00:49:34.860 --> 00:49:42.870
1600	Vini Sebastian: Okay
1601	
1602	401
1603	00:49:43.680 --> 00:49:43.890
1604	Mayuri Kulkarni: Oh.
1605	
1606	402
1607	00:49:43.980 --> 00:49:54.570
1608	Vini Sebastian: Are they joined for that week
1609	
1610	403
1611	00:49:55.470 --> 00:50:05.190
1612	Vini Sebastian: To go to different schools of food are and they are to train the teachers
1613	
1614	404
1615	00:50:05.580 --> 00:50:06.990
1616	Vini Sebastian: It was a very good
1617	
1618	405
1619	00:50:07.020 --> 00:50:09.060
1620	Vini Sebastian: got bored after some time and now they are really.
1621	
1622	406
1623	00:50:09.690 --> 00:50:15.900
1624	Mayuri Kulkarni: into teaching yeah so teaching content development NGOs is what your students.
1625	
1626	407
1627	00:50:16.080 --> 00:50:18.510
1628	Vini Sebastian: Mostly getting used to the teaching only.
1629	
1630	408
1631	00:50:18.720 --> 00:50:32.640
1632	Mayuri Kulkarni: Teaching only as teachers open open and then so in terms of institution wise Now I want to understand how you feel of the challenges you when your colleagues would face with respect to teaching students.
1633	
1634	409
1635	00:50:32.910 --> 00:50:45.120
1636	Vini Sebastian: Your the communication of the students know that is a big challenge for some of them have real communication problems and some of them their willingness to learn so you're talking in terms of students are.
1637	
1638	410
1639	00:50:46.350 --> 00:50:49.440
1640	Mayuri Kulkarni: No students only so
1641	
1642	411
1643	00:50:49.740 --> 00:50:52.560
1644	Vini Sebastian: or attendance is not a big problem.
1645	
1646	412
1647	00:50:52.620 --> 00:51:00.330
1648	Vini Sebastian: of attendance
1649	
1650	413
1651	00:51:01.320 --> 00:51:09.270
1652	Vini Sebastian: Everything on to be accent
1653	
1654	414
1655	00:51:09.870 --> 00:51:23.310
1656	Vini Sebastian: or something like that
1657	
1658	415
1659	00:51:24.450 --> 00:51:33.630
1660	Vini Sebastian: They have other responsibilities at home
1661	
1662	416
1663	00:51:34.470 --> 00:51:41.040
1664	Vini Sebastian: That intensive studies not there have any paper
1665	
1666	417
1667	00:51:41.940 --> 00:51:49.650
1668	Vini Sebastian: It is not like you know that they have to break their heads or something so
1669	
1670	418
1671	00:51:50.250 --> 00:51:56.280
1672	Vini Sebastian: Before the exam also they will be able to write
1673	
1674	419
1675	00:51:57.120 --> 00:52:05.190
1676	Vini Sebastian: Rather than you know direct questions
1677	
1678	420
1679	00:52:05.550 --> 00:52:21.660
1680	Vini Sebastian: Then it will be
1681	
1682	421
1683	00:52:21.900 --> 00:52:22.860
1684	Vini Sebastian: i've attended know.
1685	
1686	422
1687	00:52:23.280 --> 00:52:27.690
1688	Vini Sebastian: So
1689	
1690	423
1691	00:52:28.140 --> 00:52:37.560
1692	Vini Sebastian: Because they want all syllabus oriented teaching only whatever is there in the syllabus we have protein
1693	
1694	424
1695	00:52:38.220 --> 00:52:46.320
1696	Vini Sebastian: And if we give them some assignments
1697	
1698	425
1699	00:52:46.890 --> 00:52:54.750
1700	Vini Sebastian: And we do not have time and you know such complaints come on
1701	
1702	426
1703	00:52:55.230 --> 00:53:11.160
1704	Vini Sebastian: A capella candela college
1705	
1706	427
1707	00:53:12.210 --> 00:53:19.830
1708	Mayuri Kulkarni: Oh
1709	
1710	428
1711	00:53:21.150 --> 00:53:35.640
1712	Mayuri Kulkarni: Contact so when you said that your daughter studies
1713	
1714	429
1715	00:53:37.080 --> 00:53:37.530
1716	Mayuri Kulkarni: daughter.
1717	
1718	430
1719	00:53:38.910 --> 00:53:44.220
1720	Mayuri Kulkarni: yeah I think it can also have some other challenges you.
1721	
1722	431
1723	00:53:45.390 --> 00:53:52.080
1724	Mayuri Kulkarni: Either if you do
1725	
1726	432
1727	00:53:52.410 --> 00:54:02.940
1728	Mayuri Kulkarni: Like you were saying right
1729	
1730	433
1731	00:54:03.000 --> 00:54:03.600
1732	ought to give.
1733	
1734	434
1735	00:54:04.650 --> 00:54:05.400
1736	Mayuri Kulkarni: You can take the point.
1737	
1738	435
1739	00:54:11.130 --> 00:54:15.270
1740	Mayuri Kulkarni: On my side is asking of challenges
1741	
1742	436
1743	00:54:15.330 --> 00:54:20.160
1744	Vini Sebastian: You is eternal life is a lot of challenges
1745	
1746	437
1747	00:54:20.400 --> 00:54:23.940
1748	Vini Sebastian: Sometimes in our college
1749	
1750	438
1751	00:54:24.810 --> 00:54:31.380
1752	Vini Sebastian: And I wanted to go to make you know
1753	
1754	439
1755	00:54:32.130 --> 00:54:42.870
1756	Vini Sebastian: Yes
1757	
1758	440
1759	00:54:43.380 --> 00:54:53.160
1760	Vini Sebastian: You have to literally you know go burn the candle at both ends
1761	
1762	441
1763	00:54:53.700 --> 00:55:01.080
1764	Vini Sebastian: That you move your motivation your to generate some inner motivation from somewhere to do that minor and major research.
1765	
1766	442
1767	00:55:01.620 --> 00:55:17.250
1768	Vini Sebastian: I
1769	
1770	443
1771	00:55:17.760 --> 00:55:19.590
1772	Mayuri Kulkarni: That time constraint
1773	
1774	444
1775	00:55:19.740 --> 00:55:23.130
1776	Vini Sebastian: yeah so but I managed writing a lot of papers.
1777	
1778	445
1779	00:55:23.310 --> 00:55:28.350
1780	Vini Sebastian: Okay
1781	
1782	446
1783	00:55:28.680 --> 00:55:40.530
1784	Vini Sebastian: And then I write some papers but that also know students are you know
1785	
1786	447
1787	00:55:40.920 --> 00:55:54.150
1788	Vini Sebastian: That also is not good
1789	
1790	448
1791	00:55:54.390 --> 00:56:03.300
1792	Vini Sebastian: yeah
1793	
1794	449
1795	00:56:03.750 --> 00:56:06.090
1796	Vini Sebastian: And we have to do so much of reports and.
1797	
1798	450
1799	00:56:06.300 --> 00:56:21.900
1800	Vini Sebastian: This neck is there so many reports have to be made safe appraisal reports after me for performance appraisal appraisal report annual report
1801	
1802	451
1803	00:56:22.500 --> 00:56:25.590
1804	Vini Sebastian: And the office work actually no our office is empty.
1805	
1806	452
1807	00:56:25.680 --> 00:56:37.170
1808	Vini Sebastian: If you will you will not believe our offices empty
1809	
1810	453
1811	00:56:38.160 --> 00:56:39.420
1812	Vini Sebastian: for appointing anybody.
1813	
1814	454
1815	00:56:39.750 --> 00:56:45.180
1816	Vini Sebastian: So these are all management paid employee so management is spending so much for running the College office.
1817	
1818	455
1819	00:56:45.660 --> 00:56:56.010
1820	Vini Sebastian: So we have to go
1821	
1822	456
1823	00:56:56.370 --> 00:57:05.520
1824	Vini Sebastian: So many things we are bogged down with administrative work
1825	
1826	457
1827	00:57:05.910 --> 00:57:14.730
1828	Vini Sebastian: I feel i've learned so much I have read so much in my paper
1829	
1830	458
1831	00:57:15.390 --> 00:57:23.910
1832	Vini Sebastian: All day i'm doing something or the other
1833	
1834	459
1835	00:57:24.450 --> 00:57:35.250
1836	Vini Sebastian: which I took up three years back
1837	
1838	460
1839	00:57:35.700 --> 00:57:44.820
1840	Vini Sebastian: I was just doing it superficially actually because I read last time only reading on that paper
1841	
1842	461
1843	00:57:45.210 --> 00:57:54.630
1844	Vini Sebastian: I know what the paper is and I contacted so many people to understand that paper well so that color that networking also we cannot go suppose we have to call somebody as a resource person.
1845	
1846	462
1847	00:57:54.720 --> 00:57:56.700
1848	Vini Sebastian: From the College will not have money to pay.
1849	
1850	463
1851	00:57:57.510 --> 00:58:00.360
1852	Vini Sebastian: I guess
1853	
1854	464
1855	00:58:00.630 --> 00:58:07.020
1856	Vini Sebastian: So
1857	
1858	465
1859	00:58:08.400 --> 00:58:11.160
1860	Vini Sebastian: Does the government is not giving us maintenance around.
1861	
1862	466
1863	00:58:12.210 --> 00:58:14.190
1864	Vini Sebastian: So everything is coming from the.
1865	
1866	467
1867	00:58:14.190 --> 00:58:27.090
1868	Vini Sebastian: management so management has to be everything So how are we supposed to survive
1869	
1870	468
1871	00:58:28.890 --> 00:58:43.770
1872	Mayuri Kulkarni: And i'm that respect to B and C D regulation how this diet is that
1873	
1874	469
1875	00:58:43.830 --> 00:58:47.130
1876	Vini Sebastian: Do terms of internship and the papers and.
1877	
1878	470
1879	00:58:48.030 --> 00:58:48.540
1880	So.
1881	
1882	471
1883	00:58:49.710 --> 00:58:50.250
1884	Mayuri Kulkarni: Early.
1885	
1886	472
1887	00:58:51.360 --> 00:59:02.730
1888	Mayuri Kulkarni: So generally the epics body right of teacher education and as counsel for teacher education deregulation also would mean something to your college and you would also have to adhere by the regulations.
1889	
1890	473
1891	00:59:03.060 --> 00:59:08.190
1892	Mayuri Kulkarni: So do you think that is okay
1893	
1894	474
1895	00:59:08.610 --> 00:59:17.790
1896	Vini Sebastian: In CP regulations
1897	
1898	475
1899	00:59:18.450 --> 00:59:26.910
1900	Vini Sebastian: health facilities and all that
1901	
1902	476
1903	00:59:27.420 --> 00:59:36.720
1904	Vini Sebastian: The space required physical facilities
1905	
1906	477
1907	00:59:37.290 --> 00:59:49.800
1908	Vini Sebastian: So we because of that
1909	
1910	478
1911	00:59:51.630 --> 00:59:55.560
1912	Mayuri Kulkarni: affiliating body
1913	
1914	479
1915	00:59:55.890 --> 01:00:11.790
1916	Mayuri Kulkarni: Yes
1917	
1918	480
1919	01:00:12.030 --> 01:00:23.610
1920	Vini Sebastian: University of Mumbai you he gives us the curriculum and they tell us like you know how many hours
1921	
1922	481
1923	01:00:24.060 --> 01:00:36.030
1924	Vini Sebastian: The University of my regulations on the so we get it from the console section at all Okay
1925	
1926	482
1927	01:00:36.030 --> 01:00:36.270
1928	Mayuri Kulkarni: So.
1929	
1930	483
1931	01:00:36.660 --> 01:00:40.080
1932	Vini Sebastian: It is almost the same by those regulations.
1933	
1934	484
1935	01:00:40.500 --> 01:00:50.340
1936	Mayuri Kulkarni: Oh man
1937	
1938	485
1939	01:00:51.420 --> 01:00:58.950
1940	Mayuri Kulkarni: So I wanted to understand you know your experience like you said during covered
1941	
1942	486
1943	01:00:59.580 --> 01:01:12.990
1944	Mayuri Kulkarni: Actually enlightening for you to develop yourself
1945	
1946	487
1947	01:01:13.770 --> 01:01:24.570
1948	Vini Sebastian: yeah so Initially it was you know
1949	
1950	488
1951	01:01:25.020 --> 01:01:35.280
1952	Vini Sebastian: I knew only the basic so vendor for it started
1953	
1954	489
1955	01:01:36.090 --> 01:01:47.670
1956	Vini Sebastian: So I didn't even know how to use this zoom and also my the batch which
1957	
1958	490
1959	01:01:48.270 --> 01:01:53.610
1960	Vini Sebastian: And I literally made a big mess of it
1961	
1962	491
1963	01:01:54.030 --> 01:01:58.650
1964	Vini Sebastian: Then
1965	
1966	492
1967	01:01:58.920 --> 01:02:10.590
1968	Vini Sebastian: Suddenly
1969	
1970	493
1971	01:02:11.460 --> 01:02:21.630
1972	Vini Sebastian: And then I picked up the skills
1973	
1974	494
1975	01:02:23.400 --> 01:02:33.960
1976	Vini Sebastian: Problems with each other
1977	
1978	495
1979	01:02:34.470 --> 01:02:42.210
1980	Vini Sebastian: Like when I spoke to my friend in sapphire college
1981	
1982	496
1983	01:02:42.600 --> 01:02:52.080
1984	Vini Sebastian: Where the teachers had to upgrade this is so sadly in our college
1985	
1986	497
1987	01:02:52.770 --> 01:02:59.820
1988	Vini Sebastian: So I had I contacted some of my colleagues and other colleges
1989	
1990	498
1991	01:03:00.480 --> 01:03:11.220
1992	Vini Sebastian: custom of coming to the university and correcting the paper so they're in during that time we made good friends yeah
1993	
1994	499
1995	01:03:11.550 --> 01:03:17.760
1996	Vini Sebastian: We don't come now any longer to the university papers
1997	
1998	500
1999	01:03:18.060 --> 01:03:28.470
2000	Vini Sebastian: So when we correct papers
2001	
2002	501
2003	01:03:28.800 --> 01:03:34.470
2004	Vini Sebastian: tell them that I am weak in this part and i'm so
2005	
2006	502
2007	01:03:35.010 --> 01:03:47.160
2008	Vini Sebastian: Different colleges my my friends and they taught me Google me I didn't know anything about that Google made I said
2009	
2010	503
2011	01:03:48.150 --> 01:03:57.540
2012	Vini Sebastian: And so I learned and similarly other teachers also tried to learn
2013	
2014	504
2015	01:03:57.960 --> 01:04:04.860
2016	Vini Sebastian: And then during the lockdown there were some courses
2017	
2018	505
2019	01:04:05.400 --> 01:04:25.680
2020	Vini Sebastian: Oh
2021	
2022	506
2023	01:04:27.120 --> 01:04:31.650
2024	Vini Sebastian: Like you know
2025	
2026	507
2027	01:04:32.310 --> 01:04:39.600
2028	Vini Sebastian: Then we learned
2029	
2030	508
2031	01:04:40.110 --> 01:04:45.210
2032	Vini Sebastian: But the ones who are coming in
2033	
2034	509
2035	01:04:45.720 --> 01:04:56.100
2036	Vini Sebastian: And they knew that a veto which are me so
2037	
2038	510
2039	01:04:56.490 --> 01:05:04.950
2040	Vini Sebastian: Because I was really so bad
2041	
2042	511
2043	01:05:05.430 --> 01:05:06.420
2044	Mayuri Kulkarni: For absolute.
2045	
2046	512
2047	01:05:06.570 --> 01:05:16.170
2048	Vini Sebastian: So then
2049	
2050	513
2051	01:05:16.590 --> 01:05:27.690
2052	Vini Sebastian: Plus
2053	
2054	514
2055	01:05:28.770 --> 01:05:41.850
2056	Vini Sebastian: This thing
2057	
2058	515
2059	01:05:42.570 --> 01:05:44.580
2060	Vini Sebastian: For my students
2061	
2062	516
2063	01:05:44.760 --> 01:06:04.020
2064	Vini Sebastian: Night my students also I also for joining
2065	
2066	517
2067	01:06:05.100 --> 01:06:08.730
2068	Vini Sebastian: They were everyone fact that they would have done it on their own.
2069	
2070	518
2071	01:06:11.040 --> 01:06:15.270
2072	Vini Sebastian: They would have done it on their own
2073	
2074	519
2075	01:06:15.780 --> 01:06:23.280
2076	Vini Sebastian: And then I took a session for their money skills
2077	
2078	520
2079	01:06:23.790 --> 01:06:39.390
2080	Vini Sebastian: The students appreciate it a lot
2081	
2082	521
2083	01:06:39.930 --> 01:06:47.160
2084	Vini Sebastian: So now I use different innovative techniques
2085	
2086	522
2087	01:06:47.520 --> 01:06:53.430
2088	Vini Sebastian: Now
2089	
2090	523
2091	01:06:53.430 --> 01:06:54.120
2092	Vini Sebastian: I gave a.
2093	
2094	524
2095	01:06:54.330 --> 01:07:06.810
2096	Vini Sebastian: session on his skills
2097	
2098	525
2099	01:07:08.340 --> 01:07:13.950
2100	Vini Sebastian: So that was a big challenge
2101	
2102	526
2103	01:07:14.340 --> 01:07:24.300
2104	Vini Sebastian: And we are to write the feedback and it was so difficult
2105	
2106	527
2107	01:07:24.990 --> 01:07:35.520
2108	Vini Sebastian: You only participate around five to six students will be opening their mouth and giving some answers
2109	
2110	528
2111	01:07:37.530 --> 01:07:45.090
2112	Vini Sebastian: So they know that we have is not going to do anything nobody's going to come out of the screen dickie point then afterwards iPhone them individually.
2113	
2114	529
2115	01:07:45.810 --> 01:07:50.940
2116	Vini Sebastian: And then I say that what happened to you in the class
2117	
2118	530
2119	01:07:51.210 --> 01:07:59.310
2120	Vini Sebastian: meaning a small threats
2121	
2122	531
2123	01:07:59.520 --> 01:08:10.080
2124	Vini Sebastian: participate
2125	
2126	532
2127	01:08:10.710 --> 01:08:19.920
2128	Vini Sebastian: Then co curricular activities also was a big challenge
2129	
2130	533
2131	01:08:20.280 --> 01:08:28.320
2132	Vini Sebastian: And some if they cannot perform it online suppose it is a play
2133	
2134	534
2135	01:08:28.650 --> 01:08:35.370
2136	Vini Sebastian: But those skills were not there
2137	
2138	535
2139	01:08:36.180 --> 01:08:48.870
2140	Vini Sebastian: You know
2141	
2142	536
2143	01:08:48.900 --> 01:08:50.580
2144	Mayuri Kulkarni: trained in on pain when on.
2145	
2146	537
2147	01:08:53.850 --> 01:09:02.910
2148	Mayuri Kulkarni: My man in terms of of you know
2149	
2150	538
2151	01:09:03.480 --> 01:09:10.740
2152	Vini Sebastian: Given only on some of the way we asked their parents so some of them had over themselves so.
2153	
2154	539
2155	01:09:11.280 --> 01:09:21.000
2156	Mayuri Kulkarni: So so institute like trying to you know give any medical assistance on how our House institute trying to cope with the students.
2157	
2158	540
2159	01:09:21.630 --> 01:09:25.170
2160	Vini Sebastian: We have a counselor so the students can.
2161	
2162	541
2163	01:09:26.190 --> 01:09:33.240
2164	Vini Sebastian: contact the counselor anytime there to give them names and the counselor will be taking individually counseling online
2165	
2166	542
2167	01:09:33.750 --> 01:09:38.160
2168	Vini Sebastian: yeah we don't give any financial assistance to the students okay.
2169	
2170	543
2171	01:09:39.000 --> 01:09:48.570
2172	Mayuri Kulkarni: And with respect to I noticed this Mumbai and probably all students would have enough Internet or bandwidth but was that a concern
2173	
2174	544
2175	01:09:48.630 --> 01:09:49.650
2176	Mayuri Kulkarni: guys are your battery.
2177	
2178	545
2179	01:09:49.680 --> 01:09:57.600
2180	Vini Sebastian: was a concern yeah so
2181	
2182	546
2183	01:09:58.320 --> 01:10:10.350
2184	Vini Sebastian: know
2185	
2186	547
2187	01:10:10.560 --> 01:10:19.080
2188	Vini Sebastian: And then another paper has to be given
2189	
2190	548
2191	01:10:19.800 --> 01:10:29.730
2192	Vini Sebastian: principal or many multiple choice questions we prepared I but it it helped us to understand our topic in depth dominion preparing this multiple choice
2193	
2194	549
2195	01:10:30.180 --> 01:10:39.120
2196	Vini Sebastian: yeah we really your brain starts turning my God
2197	
2198	550
2199	01:10:40.320 --> 01:10:47.910
2200	Vini Sebastian: I made some multiple choice and a pilot tested with my students
2201	
2202	551
2203	01:10:48.150 --> 01:10:54.540
2204	Vini Sebastian: me so
2205	
2206	552
2207	01:10:54.690 --> 01:10:55.020
2208	Mayuri Kulkarni: Right.
2209	
2210	553
2211	01:10:55.080 --> 01:11:04.110
2212	Vini Sebastian: So they were giving me advice like man this word is not proper and we are not able to on the distractors also so like that I learned to make multiple choice.
2213	
2214	554
2215	01:11:05.550 --> 01:11:08.760
2216	Vini Sebastian: So I didn't I didn't know how to make a Google form.
2217	
2218	555
2219	01:11:09.960 --> 01:11:10.740
2220	Mayuri Kulkarni: In this process.
2221	
2222	556
2223	01:11:10.770 --> 01:11:17.250
2224	Vini Sebastian: yeah because before the lockdown my colleagues were preparing the Google form some of them
2225	
2226	557
2227	01:11:17.340 --> 01:11:18.030
2228	Vini Sebastian: initiative.
2229	
2230	558
2231	01:11:18.090 --> 01:11:31.950
2232	Vini Sebastian: learn anything because it
2233	
2234	559
2235	01:11:32.910 --> 01:11:36.600
2236	Mayuri Kulkarni: So benny ma'am you're like this Internet pro now you.
2237	
2238	560
2239	01:11:36.840 --> 01:11:38.640
2240	Mayuri Kulkarni: Online everything you know how to.
2241	
2242	561
2243	01:11:38.640 --> 01:11:55.380
2244	Vini Sebastian: Do not approach
2245	
2246	562
2247	01:11:55.590 --> 01:11:59.010
2248	Mayuri Kulkarni: And you also have this internal motivation that I have to know.
2249	
2250	563
2251	01:11:59.070 --> 01:11:59.700
2252	Vini Sebastian: Yes
2253	
2254	564
2255	01:11:59.760 --> 01:12:01.980
2256	Vini Sebastian: I was there very much strong.
2257	
2258	565
2259	01:12:03.150 --> 01:12:03.390
2260	Mayuri Kulkarni: yeah.
2261	
2262	566
2263	01:12:03.420 --> 01:12:06.570
2264	Vini Sebastian: I really like the students.
2265	
2266	567
2267	01:12:07.800 --> 01:12:13.800
2268	Mayuri Kulkarni: Nice
2269	
2270	568
2271	01:12:13.920 --> 01:12:15.420
2272	Mayuri Kulkarni: A night it doesn't matter.
2273	
2274	569
2275	01:12:15.690 --> 01:12:18.720
2276	Vini Sebastian: And my students were so cooperating sometimes you know take.
2277	
2278	570
2279	01:12:19.440 --> 01:12:36.600
2280	Vini Sebastian: It easy diesel i'm not able to fix the gog brown my PowerPoint Can you help me and for things you'll be sitting and waiting to be the steps so then when one of the workshops
2281	
2282	571
2283	01:12:37.140 --> 01:12:46.890
2284	Vini Sebastian: So she was saying this mini man that she wanted to learn something at that time she will learn it on the at that time she will not sleep without learning that because she will not get sleep only.
2285	
2286	572
2287	01:12:48.000 --> 01:12:51.150
2288	Mayuri Kulkarni: I think we need
2289	
2290	573
2291	01:12:52.170 --> 01:12:53.490
2292	Mayuri Kulkarni: Though yeah because.
2293	
2294	574
2295	01:12:53.760 --> 01:12:59.370
2296	Mayuri Kulkarni: You know this motivation this passion in the field of education that is actually what drives everyone around.
2297	
2298	575
2299	01:12:59.820 --> 01:13:09.750
2300	Vini Sebastian: I want to thank this for a teeny you know go through the oars I was introduced for yes
2301	
2302	576
2303	01:13:09.990 --> 01:13:22.170
2304	Vini Sebastian: Actual experience with oh yeah I got with this Okay
2305	
2306	577
2307	01:13:22.440 --> 01:13:28.200
2308	Mayuri Kulkarni: I will definitely let them know man oh also when i'm just one last question
2309	
2310	578
2311	01:13:28.680 --> 01:13:43.230
2312	Mayuri Kulkarni: I know in bits and pieces
2313	
2314	579
2315	01:13:43.350 --> 01:13:53.070
2316	Vini Sebastian: i'm liking
2317	
2318	580
2319	01:13:53.700 --> 01:14:01.080
2320	Vini Sebastian: So
2321	
2322	581
2323	01:14:01.560 --> 01:14:12.000
2324	Vini Sebastian: And i've used a lot of resources online
2325	
2326	582
2327	01:14:12.570 --> 01:14:25.380
2328	Vini Sebastian: But only thing you know I need to know my students and I need to be in touch with them that connect is not there
2329	
2330	583
2331	01:14:25.830 --> 01:14:39.750
2332	Vini Sebastian: So polo somebody say something
2333	
2334	584
2335	01:14:39.780 --> 01:14:44.220
2336	Mayuri Kulkarni: Like physical
2337	
2338	585
2339	01:14:44.250 --> 01:14:46.470
2340	Mayuri Kulkarni: You know that is upon icon type.
2341	
2342	586
2343	01:14:46.800 --> 01:14:49.620
2344	Mayuri Kulkarni: Is a little bit missing when it is online.
2345	
2346	587
2347	01:14:49.830 --> 01:14:51.300
2348	Vini Sebastian: and put the videos or.
2349	
2350	588
2351	01:14:51.510 --> 01:15:00.990
2352	Vini Sebastian: yeah we cannot see them also so they are just one alphabet on the screen
2353	
2354	589
2355	01:15:01.200 --> 01:15:05.730
2356	Vini Sebastian: Right now
2357	
2358	590
2359	01:15:06.210 --> 01:15:13.560
2360	Vini Sebastian: they're saying that now this this one so percent we don't even know how that person looks like at least you are lucky to have at least.
2361	
2362	591
2363	01:15:14.040 --> 01:15:15.150
2364	Mayuri Kulkarni: One day
2365	
2366	592
2367	01:15:15.600 --> 01:15:28.470
2368	Vini Sebastian: take on
2369	
2370	593
2371	01:15:28.710 --> 01:15:37.620
2372	Vini Sebastian: yeah long meetings are there
2373	
2374	594
2375	01:15:38.070 --> 01:15:47.670
2376	Vini Sebastian: You know that motivates me I like to go to college and you know be around and what are some was our mistake
2377	
2378	595
2379	01:15:47.760 --> 01:15:48.480
2380	Mayuri Kulkarni: Yes
2381	
2382	596
2383	01:15:48.690 --> 01:15:59.850
2384	Vini Sebastian: And the students
2385	
2386	597
2387	01:16:00.090 --> 01:16:17.130
2388	Vini Sebastian: lot of energy and enthusiasm from them to that part of our self
2389	
2390	598
2391	01:16:17.820 --> 01:16:21.810
2392	Mayuri Kulkarni: One last question
2393	
2394	599
2395	01:16:22.020 --> 01:16:35.070
2396	Vini Sebastian: I need to different subjects
2397	
2398	600
2399	01:16:35.580 --> 01:16:37.650
2400	Vini Sebastian: Over these are my papers which ideas.
2401	
2402	601
2403	01:16:38.280 --> 01:16:41.880
2404	Mayuri Kulkarni: Okay okay oh okay my my thing.
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