1 00:00:02.490 --> 00:00:08.460 Mayuri Kulkarni: So minimum of could we could begin with a short introduction of you know where you're. 2 00:00:09.510 --> 00:00:18.570 Mayuri Kulkarni: Teaching and 3 00:00:19.410 --> 00:00:28.560 Vini Sebastian: So this year on June 11 I will be completing 25 years in the present politics enslavers Institute of education. 4 00:00:29.400 --> 00:00:38.850 Vini Sebastian: This 5 00:00:39.240 --> 00:00:51.690 Vini Sebastian: I have worked in a to nail Polish matey by college and also in St mary's junior college and also one year I have worked in our school 6 00:00:52.260 --> 00:01:00.930 Vini Sebastian: And so that is about my teaching experience and the maximum 7 00:01:01.530 --> 00:01:16.170 Vini Sebastian: Where I was a student also for being so 8 00:01:16.740 --> 00:01:19.590 Mayuri Kulkarni: Right right and what is your specialization. 9 00:01:20.160 --> 00:01:30.870 Vini Sebastian: So in my image know I had more specialization teacher education and advanced educational statistics 10 00:01:31.590 --> 00:01:41.400 Vini Sebastian: Be at college there isn't any particular subject like you know where you can teach for a long time because initially I was stuck with philosophy and sociology. 11 00:01:41.700 --> 00:01:49.290 Vini Sebastian: I was assigned student and I have to teach that but I tried to manage that 12 00:01:49.710 --> 00:01:57.570 Vini Sebastian: So for some time i'm teaching educational evaluation and assessment for learning and I am also teaching action research. 13 00:01:58.140 --> 00:02:09.300 Vini Sebastian: So action to such as my specialization and in the methods we have the teaching methods 14 00:02:10.230 --> 00:02:18.690 Vini Sebastian: Because my Max pedagogy teacher was he has resigned 15 00:02:19.320 --> 00:02:21.900 Vini Sebastian: Now so then from science I shifted to Max. 16 00:02:22.890 --> 00:02:25.050 Vini Sebastian: Max also is a good subject and. 17 00:02:26.070 --> 00:02:37.800 Vini Sebastian: yeah that's it and we have lots of project based courses which all of us are involved in 18 00:02:38.550 --> 00:02:40.410 Vini Sebastian: So I pick up Community work. 19 00:02:40.950 --> 00:02:43.770 Vini Sebastian: With the students hokey pokey man. 20 00:02:44.010 --> 00:02:52.620 Mayuri Kulkarni: And can you can you elaborate on the program programs that you offered in your Institute and since when. 21 00:02:53.580 --> 00:03:10.800 Vini Sebastian: We have we have mainly the sbir program only which we are offering and the college's oldest teacher education college in Mumbai he had started in 1958 That was the oldest for lunch many. 22 00:03:12.180 --> 00:03:19.920 Vini Sebastian: Like top vice chancellor's and the alumnus from your you know the alumni are very illustrious I mean. 23 00:03:20.250 --> 00:03:30.870 Vini Sebastian: We are nowhere like you know in front of them 24 00:03:31.230 --> 00:03:39.270 Vini Sebastian: So that we have recently see we used to have that image course in miracles 25 00:03:39.360 --> 00:03:52.680 Vini Sebastian: Then we all used to have a may contact sessions for idle distance education so contacts sessions we used to have we also used to have early childhood care and education course. 26 00:03:53.460 --> 00:04:05.790 Vini Sebastian: Also 27 00:04:06.600 --> 00:04:16.920 Vini Sebastian: It will attract a lot of gst so we had to discontinue that course 28 00:04:18.000 --> 00:04:27.570 Vini Sebastian: That is going on and recently we collaborated with hbc se and we had a certificate in mathematics education 29 00:04:28.170 --> 00:04:32.100 Vini Sebastian: So short courses 30 00:04:32.100 --> 00:04:36.960 Vini Sebastian: Speaking we had a certificate course on language and English 31 00:04:38.310 --> 00:04:43.260 Vini Sebastian: So 32 00:04:43.860 --> 00:04:45.870 Vini Sebastian: It was only the main thing is the beard. 33 00:04:46.200 --> 00:04:50.640 Mayuri Kulkarni: of being among voters 34 00:04:51.510 --> 00:04:53.910 Vini Sebastian: That is two batches hundred students 35 00:04:54.630 --> 00:04:57.120 Vini Sebastian: So I can get together. 36 00:04:57.420 --> 00:04:58.380 Vini Sebastian: hundred students. 37 00:04:59.130 --> 00:05:01.590 Vini Sebastian: In one batch only 50 seats 38 00:05:01.740 --> 00:05:03.000 Mayuri Kulkarni: Open open. 39 00:05:04.500 --> 00:05:15.810 Mayuri Kulkarni: And i'm so I wanted to know so we want to understand a little bit about the kind of students 40 00:05:16.410 --> 00:05:30.660 Mayuri Kulkarni: We wanted to understand the proportion of students from you know the different streams so arts commerce physics 41 00:05:31.320 --> 00:05:41.400 Vini Sebastian: See mostly know like we have five methods we have English history we have geography economic science and math six methods we have. 42 00:05:41.700 --> 00:05:53.280 Vini Sebastian: Open flow the students will work taken know enroll they are put into these methods 43 00:05:53.820 --> 00:06:03.510 Vini Sebastian: That there are art students and science math students and we have other students from engineering and management all students are also there but they are put into the science. 44 00:06:04.530 --> 00:06:18.720 Vini Sebastian: Okay 45 00:06:19.200 --> 00:06:22.680 Vini Sebastian: When you have 1515 in English and science moments. 46 00:06:23.040 --> 00:06:24.090 Vini Sebastian: Like that we will have. 47 00:06:24.780 --> 00:06:30.690 Mayuri Kulkarni: OK 48 00:06:31.470 --> 00:06:33.690 Mayuri Kulkarni: But is that a Mississippi. 49 00:06:34.860 --> 00:06:41.640 Vini Sebastian: Yes 50 00:06:42.210 --> 00:06:54.810 Vini Sebastian: The Government itself is selecting and giving them the subjects they only select and they see 51 00:06:55.380 --> 00:07:04.920 Vini Sebastian: And that subject should not be an optional subject should be compulsory subject so whatever subject 52 00:07:06.240 --> 00:07:08.640 Vini Sebastian: That it makes a big difference 53 00:07:09.630 --> 00:07:12.660 Vini Sebastian: The content is still we can still work on that. 54 00:07:12.990 --> 00:07:20.850 Mayuri Kulkarni: Right right 55 00:07:21.330 --> 00:07:36.810 Mayuri Kulkarni: Yes 56 00:07:36.900 --> 00:07:41.310 Vini Sebastian: Who they have more more than 80% we have first class months. 57 00:07:41.940 --> 00:07:46.290 Vini Sebastian: So 58 00:07:46.530 --> 00:07:50.430 Vini Sebastian: capability 59 00:07:51.480 --> 00:07:56.370 Vini Sebastian: Because they tell us that see when we go to schools 60 00:07:56.910 --> 00:08:00.540 Vini Sebastian: know they tell us man 61 00:08:01.260 --> 00:08:09.750 Vini Sebastian: Now 62 00:08:10.230 --> 00:08:12.330 Vini Sebastian: But they themselves have to. 63 00:08:12.390 --> 00:08:15.660 Vini Sebastian: go through the content 64 00:08:16.200 --> 00:08:16.560 Right. 65 00:08:17.910 --> 00:08:25.590 Mayuri Kulkarni: We are right so it's the concept that they learn in the school where they need to refresh when we are back in beard right. 66 00:08:25.740 --> 00:08:28.050 Vini Sebastian: And then last touch you know 67 00:08:28.260 --> 00:08:41.580 Vini Sebastian: years after post graduation if they are coming that they are plugging go back to the school and see what they have taught 68 00:08:43.620 --> 00:08:59.010 Vini Sebastian: We haven't they're not in touch with mathematics of the mathematics teacher as a big problem 69 00:08:59.220 --> 00:09:02.550 Mayuri Kulkarni: So it's not just the pedagogy but it's the content 70 00:09:03.030 --> 00:09:04.410 Vini Sebastian: us both we're pretty. 71 00:09:05.550 --> 00:09:12.750 Mayuri Kulkarni: Open I man 72 00:09:14.880 --> 00:09:29.280 Vini Sebastian: You know 73 00:09:29.760 --> 00:09:38.310 Vini Sebastian: Okay same problems exist in other colleges also when we talked to any teacher educator they tell you the same thing I don't know about the academic. 74 00:09:39.360 --> 00:09:39.840 Vini Sebastian: levels. 75 00:09:40.530 --> 00:09:47.100 Mayuri Kulkarni: Okay okay i'm sorry 76 00:09:47.130 --> 00:09:49.770 Vini Sebastian: yeah the men are more like in the car we have eight. 77 00:09:50.610 --> 00:09:57.780 Vini Sebastian: boys and this 42 our goals 78 00:09:58.440 --> 00:10:01.530 Vini Sebastian: or like that the girls are many. 79 00:10:02.100 --> 00:10:03.390 Mayuri Kulkarni: OK OK so. 80 00:10:04.500 --> 00:10:11.910 Mayuri Kulkarni: In terms of 2019 and 20 piece ages 81 00:10:12.810 --> 00:10:14.130 Vini Sebastian: We had full admission. 82 00:10:14.460 --> 00:10:15.390 Mayuri Kulkarni: 200 each. 83 00:10:15.960 --> 00:10:22.260 Mayuri Kulkarni: screen oh okay so 84 00:10:23.340 --> 00:10:23.700 Vini Sebastian: know. 85 00:10:24.840 --> 00:10:35.310 Mayuri Kulkarni: So my man 86 00:10:35.940 --> 00:10:39.330 Vini Sebastian: CDs a by the government only by the State Government. 87 00:10:39.960 --> 00:10:48.570 Vini Sebastian: And then 88 00:10:49.050 --> 00:11:04.200 Vini Sebastian: So 89 00:11:04.440 --> 00:11:06.390 Vini Sebastian: They can apply for the next round. 90 00:11:06.720 --> 00:11:08.610 Mayuri Kulkarni: option in the sense you're saying. 91 00:11:09.870 --> 00:11:16.860 Vini Sebastian: yeah 1010 colleges 92 00:11:17.430 --> 00:11:28.050 Vini Sebastian: college websites and we are supposed to update our websites with small videos of our physical facilities and all the programs 93 00:11:28.560 --> 00:11:32.100 Vini Sebastian: then go to the website and see everything are related to the College. 94 00:11:32.430 --> 00:11:44.580 Vini Sebastian: Also contact numbers of the offices given so sometimes they call up the office and they asked what is the fees and what are the timings of the College and also all those details we give 95 00:11:45.450 --> 00:12:01.470 Vini Sebastian: They come to her college 96 00:12:01.980 --> 00:12:03.810 Mayuri Kulkarni: Also graduation is not taken into. 97 00:12:03.810 --> 00:12:04.320 Mayuri Kulkarni: Control. 98 00:12:04.650 --> 00:12:11.340 Vini Sebastian: What supposed to people have the same CT scores 99 00:12:11.340 --> 00:12:22.140 Vini Sebastian: folks so like that so as they give us 100 00:12:22.410 --> 00:12:24.480 Mayuri Kulkarni: yeah because they have cured the CP. 101 00:12:24.600 --> 00:12:25.500 Vini Sebastian: Yes 102 00:12:25.710 --> 00:12:34.560 Mayuri Kulkarni: right also just for curiosity 103 00:12:34.560 --> 00:12:36.180 Vini Sebastian: yeah we did he sees them. 104 00:12:36.420 --> 00:12:39.900 Vini Sebastian: Then we have vt Bombay teacher training college. 105 00:12:40.050 --> 00:12:57.450 Vini Sebastian: Open which is near eagle in there is same treasonous Hans Raj college and go play college is there for these other like the aided and the top ones 106 00:12:59.550 --> 00:13:03.060 Mayuri Kulkarni: Among what other line so students who are admitted in your college. 107 00:13:06.000 --> 00:13:06.780 Vini Sebastian: ranks mean. 108 00:13:07.320 --> 00:13:20.430 Mayuri Kulkarni: So say like you said right cheeky is something that they need to cave 109 00:13:20.520 --> 00:13:31.830 Mayuri Kulkarni: Really so even tasted 55% for example is the cutout but the savior's would have its cutout list 110 00:13:32.370 --> 00:13:44.460 Vini Sebastian: Actually 111 00:13:45.240 --> 00:13:53.370 Vini Sebastian: High marks 112 00:13:54.420 --> 00:13:56.130 Vini Sebastian: So they also get admission. 113 00:13:56.550 --> 00:14:07.020 Vini Sebastian: Oh 114 00:14:07.740 --> 00:14:08.940 Vini Sebastian: By they want to know. 115 00:14:09.420 --> 00:14:14.880 Vini Sebastian: Why not able to answer that question because we don't know what is the cut out for our institution. 116 00:14:15.870 --> 00:14:31.650 Mayuri Kulkarni: Or 117 00:14:32.310 --> 00:14:47.910 Vini Sebastian: Then what happens no see they give us a list 118 00:14:48.150 --> 00:15:03.360 Vini Sebastian: But we will get they came to the College and they bring all the physical documents so sometimes in their CT form may have not calculated their graduation percentage properly okay i'm not calculated that post graduation percentage property. 119 00:15:03.510 --> 00:15:09.510 Vini Sebastian: For them 120 00:15:10.170 --> 00:15:12.390 Vini Sebastian: Oh 121 00:15:12.660 --> 00:15:15.960 Vini Sebastian: Many people get rejected for whatever is remaining they get that. 122 00:15:15.960 --> 00:15:17.280 Mayuri Kulkarni: Michigan right. 123 00:15:18.330 --> 00:15:21.300 Mayuri Kulkarni: And then 124 00:15:23.610 --> 00:15:30.690 Vini Sebastian: Fine 125 00:15:31.500 --> 00:15:32.820 Mayuri Kulkarni: Of the hundred. 126 00:15:33.420 --> 00:15:34.620 Vini Sebastian: Of the 5050. 127 00:15:35.250 --> 00:15:35.520 or. 128 00:15:36.930 --> 00:15:37.980 Mayuri Kulkarni: 40. 129 00:15:38.130 --> 00:15:41.850 Vini Sebastian: You can take around 20 so 40% of fortune. 130 00:15:42.720 --> 00:15:52.140 Mayuri Kulkarni: Okay Okay 131 00:15:53.820 --> 00:15:56.670 Mayuri Kulkarni: or compared to when it was one year Program. 132 00:15:57.090 --> 00:16:11.310 Vini Sebastian: yeah 133 00:16:13.020 --> 00:16:22.920 Vini Sebastian: oriented towards developing different competencies of the students but 134 00:16:23.940 --> 00:16:39.090 Vini Sebastian: We will not have time because students to discuss their teaching experience with them now 135 00:16:40.500 --> 00:16:51.090 Vini Sebastian: Probably meaning experience and those papers are for a particular semester 136 00:16:51.360 --> 00:16:55.020 Vini Sebastian: So we finished one semester 137 00:16:55.350 --> 00:17:02.100 Vini Sebastian: That we are program is giving much more experience to the students 138 00:17:02.850 --> 00:17:06.000 Vini Sebastian: I don't know how how much it really. 139 00:17:06.210 --> 00:17:13.890 Vini Sebastian: develop the competencies and how much importance it will give to education 140 00:17:15.000 --> 00:17:17.070 Vini Sebastian: Right not know how much it will be. 141 00:17:18.540 --> 00:17:19.140 Vini Sebastian: beneficial. 142 00:17:19.170 --> 00:17:21.570 Mayuri Kulkarni: likely that was a follow up question that I wanted. 143 00:17:21.570 --> 00:17:21.720 To. 144 00:17:22.800 --> 00:17:27.960 Vini Sebastian: know was involved in the syllabus framing of the warrior VSE beard Program. 145 00:17:28.710 --> 00:17:32.280 Vini Sebastian: The education part the pedagogy part I was involved in. 146 00:17:32.730 --> 00:17:46.950 Vini Sebastian: So we did add a number of things 147 00:17:47.850 --> 00:17:52.500 Vini Sebastian: Because we know as science students 148 00:17:52.710 --> 00:17:54.750 Vini Sebastian: They would only studying science only. 149 00:17:55.230 --> 00:18:03.750 Vini Sebastian: Right 150 00:18:05.640 --> 00:18:06.300 Vini Sebastian: Like you know. 151 00:18:07.350 --> 00:18:19.110 Vini Sebastian: They may not be very involved in education subjects than the science subjects 152 00:18:19.860 --> 00:18:22.860 Vini Sebastian: Or maybe I should be proved wrong 153 00:18:24.450 --> 00:18:25.710 Vini Sebastian: You to be beneficial. 154 00:18:26.520 --> 00:18:26.730 On. 155 00:18:28.230 --> 00:18:33.300 Mayuri Kulkarni: money to improving the quality of teaching or the four year program or you think it's. 156 00:18:34.080 --> 00:18:38.130 Vini Sebastian: Since I have this in mind that it may be a secondary. 157 00:18:38.640 --> 00:18:46.650 Vini Sebastian: importance in the entire BSC beard I I wouldn't think like you know it would kind of improve the quality of features. 158 00:18:48.150 --> 00:18:56.580 Vini Sebastian: See I believe in the integration of the method and the methodology that was the main aim of improve we are introducing this vs vs. 159 00:18:57.090 --> 00:19:03.630 Vini Sebastian: yeah I do agree that 160 00:19:04.560 --> 00:19:11.100 Vini Sebastian: Because in the method known in the method paper we are only teaching methodology and we are not looking at the content yeah. 161 00:19:11.850 --> 00:19:22.410 Vini Sebastian: There is knowing degradation of the content and the methodology 162 00:19:23.040 --> 00:19:31.290 Vini Sebastian: Because the BSC teachers and the education teachers should not be separate they should work in isolation 163 00:19:32.280 --> 00:19:43.470 Vini Sebastian: But how it is going to be I don't know because when we made the syllabus the BSC teachers are making the syllabus on their own and the beer teachers are making the syllabus and how are they going to merge with each other. 164 00:19:43.950 --> 00:19:48.000 Vini Sebastian: That is what I am doubtful about so i'm I don't have answer to that question. 165 00:19:48.810 --> 00:19:55.620 Mayuri Kulkarni: Oh Oh 166 00:19:55.620 --> 00:19:57.900 Mayuri Kulkarni: about the composite program right. 167 00:19:58.020 --> 00:19:59.820 Mayuri Kulkarni: Now 168 00:20:00.480 --> 00:20:12.810 Vini Sebastian: yeah they said that it should continue 169 00:20:13.320 --> 00:20:21.510 Vini Sebastian: But only thing this drawback what I said about the content part 170 00:20:22.080 --> 00:20:29.430 Vini Sebastian: Actually 171 00:20:29.760 --> 00:20:39.030 Vini Sebastian: We are taking a one small unit 172 00:20:39.450 --> 00:20:48.630 Vini Sebastian: The students should take large chunks of matter for the entire like they should be proper in terms you know they should take a portion of the walk from the school teacher. 173 00:20:49.080 --> 00:20:59.010 Vini Sebastian: And they should complete that for a class instead of going to number of classes and are you going to number of units and ultimately they don't get out of the content. 174 00:20:59.250 --> 00:21:04.200 Vini Sebastian: Right 175 00:21:05.220 --> 00:21:14.490 Vini Sebastian: Otherwise 176 00:21:15.720 --> 00:21:20.370 Vini Sebastian: Why this one year 177 00:21:21.840 --> 00:21:22.110 Mayuri Kulkarni: OK. 178 00:21:22.530 --> 00:21:32.880 Mayuri Kulkarni: So my motors know let's come back to students now a little bit more on the profile of the students 179 00:21:33.120 --> 00:21:46.770 Vini Sebastian: Most of them are from a baby is only and they are you know also giving directions 180 00:21:48.360 --> 00:21:53.670 Vini Sebastian: You know their own economical sphere 181 00:21:54.030 --> 00:21:56.130 Vini Sebastian: Some of the parents are retired and. 182 00:21:56.490 --> 00:22:08.220 Vini Sebastian: They tell us that we have to go for it 183 00:22:09.300 --> 00:22:10.230 Vini Sebastian: Like elbows. 184 00:22:10.320 --> 00:22:12.630 Vini Sebastian: That they do 185 00:22:13.110 --> 00:22:21.660 Vini Sebastian: So you know I 186 00:22:21.750 --> 00:22:30.900 Vini Sebastian: Something and come the next day suppose we give something for self study or some individualized learning exercises 187 00:22:31.470 --> 00:22:35.910 Vini Sebastian: So they will come the next day 188 00:22:36.360 --> 00:22:46.260 Vini Sebastian: This time 189 00:22:47.010 --> 00:22:57.150 Vini Sebastian: In the school in the College 190 00:22:58.140 --> 00:23:11.070 Vini Sebastian: see their their status is like that you know they have they are more into so we have a middle class and lower middle class people we hardly have elite So then 191 00:23:11.730 --> 00:23:13.470 Vini Sebastian: So they apply for scholarship. 192 00:23:18.210 --> 00:23:25.080 Mayuri Kulkarni: So if they had not joined teaching or beard what would have been there alternated professional 193 00:23:25.590 --> 00:23:28.500 Vini Sebastian: They may be working in some offices or something like that. 194 00:23:29.880 --> 00:23:30.540 Mayuri Kulkarni: Okay 195 00:23:32.430 --> 00:23:51.180 Vini Sebastian: Actually 196 00:23:52.200 --> 00:24:01.620 Vini Sebastian: So that that is a thing 197 00:24:01.950 --> 00:24:12.000 Vini Sebastian: or some people come for convenience some people come for the marriage for for the point of view 198 00:24:12.510 --> 00:24:15.570 Vini Sebastian: Now hardly a few people come for the passion. 199 00:24:15.840 --> 00:24:16.380 passion. 200 00:24:18.330 --> 00:24:19.440 Mayuri Kulkarni: Okay i'm i'm. 201 00:24:20.430 --> 00:24:23.190 Vini Sebastian: Actually 202 00:24:23.520 --> 00:24:32.400 Vini Sebastian: When they interact with us know what kind of student 203 00:24:32.700 --> 00:24:39.750 Mayuri Kulkarni: Right right and i'm because we weren't eating 204 00:24:41.190 --> 00:24:52.080 Mayuri Kulkarni: Other things are there for which they need to come back for the for the people who come in for passion 205 00:24:52.170 --> 00:25:00.360 Vini Sebastian: We have a higher goals you know they say that they were like you know I remember now Recently I was in touch with one of the students 206 00:25:01.800 --> 00:25:09.090 Vini Sebastian: You know 207 00:25:09.840 --> 00:25:18.720 Vini Sebastian: Making some videos on mathematics topics of you know and he's putting up a YouTube video so you make such good videos you know. 208 00:25:19.080 --> 00:25:31.710 Vini Sebastian: So he was telling me like I just had a talk with him 209 00:25:33.210 --> 00:25:43.290 Vini Sebastian: We have talking 210 00:25:43.830 --> 00:25:51.930 Vini Sebastian: Some people want to be administrators and they they really want to make a difference in society 211 00:25:52.500 --> 00:26:05.910 Vini Sebastian: People like that 212 00:26:07.680 --> 00:26:11.520 Mayuri Kulkarni: And then want to students 213 00:26:12.810 --> 00:26:24.780 Vini Sebastian: They like all the activities 214 00:26:26.340 --> 00:26:27.810 Vini Sebastian: So all that they like. 215 00:26:28.590 --> 00:26:29.640 Mayuri Kulkarni: Okay 216 00:26:29.820 --> 00:26:36.810 Vini Sebastian: bonding like you know we have between the students know for the different activities 217 00:26:39.030 --> 00:26:44.310 Mayuri Kulkarni: And what could be some of the issues that probably didn't face with respect to the Program. 218 00:26:44.880 --> 00:26:54.480 Vini Sebastian: yeah so the face number of issues like because we are we asked them to number of projects which are very intensive like the assignments 219 00:26:55.140 --> 00:27:03.270 Vini Sebastian: We asked them to do reference and our assignments are not very simple 220 00:27:03.870 --> 00:27:10.860 Vini Sebastian: You know 221 00:27:11.520 --> 00:27:25.200 Vini Sebastian: Sometimes assignments come together 222 00:27:25.650 --> 00:27:33.330 Vini Sebastian: They are not able to keep up to that so that is a thing 223 00:27:33.900 --> 00:27:44.370 Vini Sebastian: We are not giving them the grades 224 00:27:45.030 --> 00:27:57.030 Vini Sebastian: make them understand what is the level of their performance so sometimes they feel that they are working very hard and they are not getting proper grades 225 00:27:57.540 --> 00:28:08.280 Vini Sebastian: So that is an internship is very strenuous because the plan the lessons and then they have to give the next day or game they have to be ready with the plan 226 00:28:08.610 --> 00:28:13.140 Vini Sebastian: They have to interact with teachers supervisor students are so many people are there. 227 00:28:13.920 --> 00:28:21.450 Vini Sebastian: So it becomes very strenuous for them internship is very strenuous 228 00:28:21.900 --> 00:28:27.900 Vini Sebastian: So these people are not used to this kind of work 229 00:28:28.380 --> 00:28:34.950 Vini Sebastian: You know 230 00:28:35.790 --> 00:28:44.940 Vini Sebastian: Then they tell you show us the rule and they say that to see the university saying 75% 231 00:28:45.510 --> 00:28:54.630 Vini Sebastian: According to us if you don't be if you're not present in the class you miss out on so many instructions and internal assessment is going on every day actually. 232 00:28:55.230 --> 00:29:08.580 Vini Sebastian: So that becomes a big problem 233 00:29:08.580 --> 00:29:08.910 Mayuri Kulkarni: yeah. 234 00:29:09.150 --> 00:29:12.870 Mayuri Kulkarni: I think that's the discipline is necessary to get quality. 235 00:29:12.990 --> 00:29:26.820 Mayuri Kulkarni: When I need also man 236 00:29:27.600 --> 00:29:42.720 Vini Sebastian: Over on me at the end of the program they will praise saying that Oh 237 00:29:44.100 --> 00:29:53.880 Vini Sebastian: RU pop icon you'll understand our situation all that 238 00:29:54.480 --> 00:30:04.800 Vini Sebastian: refer students from St xavier's so i'm actually when i'm since i'm when I was a student of this college 239 00:30:05.490 --> 00:30:24.120 Vini Sebastian: So I felt 240 00:30:24.420 --> 00:30:24.600 Mayuri Kulkarni: How. 241 00:30:24.690 --> 00:30:29.130 Vini Sebastian: Do we follow that strategy of teaching ignition pedagogical paradigm of. 242 00:30:29.250 --> 00:30:32.850 Vini Sebastian: That paradigm is value laden and how to bring in values in the. 243 00:30:33.990 --> 00:30:41.490 Vini Sebastian: teaching profession 244 00:30:41.580 --> 00:30:43.380 Vini Sebastian: By never used to reflect in my life. 245 00:30:44.190 --> 00:30:53.580 Vini Sebastian: So you're not learning what is reflection you 246 00:30:54.150 --> 00:30:57.270 Vini Sebastian: After every activity 247 00:30:57.720 --> 00:31:11.160 Vini Sebastian: So that brings in a lot of inward looking 248 00:31:12.090 --> 00:31:16.650 Mayuri Kulkarni: That is why I like to read more about this pedagogy that you. 249 00:31:17.400 --> 00:31:24.570 Vini Sebastian: yeah 250 00:31:25.200 --> 00:31:44.010 Vini Sebastian: You can see the the way they talk when they talk 251 00:31:45.420 --> 00:31:48.510 Mayuri Kulkarni: So I think 252 00:31:48.540 --> 00:31:51.930 Mayuri Kulkarni: Such little doubt but i'd be in the fitness helping them to grow into. 253 00:31:53.250 --> 00:31:56.190 Mayuri Kulkarni: humans and better teaching and I think it all pays off. 254 00:31:56.550 --> 00:32:01.860 Vini Sebastian: During the year is very difficult for us to take them along 255 00:32:02.490 --> 00:32:12.810 Vini Sebastian: I feel you know they're going to become teachers and why are they not you know all the things come to my mind 256 00:32:13.260 --> 00:32:16.140 Vini Sebastian: So we obviously we have to just be patient and go on and. 257 00:32:16.170 --> 00:32:18.840 Vini Sebastian: Because 258 00:32:19.020 --> 00:32:19.440 Always. 259 00:32:20.760 --> 00:32:22.800 Mayuri Kulkarni: Water narrow payments for the. 260 00:32:24.300 --> 00:32:27.870 Mayuri Kulkarni: exam no teacher education test oh. 261 00:32:28.770 --> 00:32:31.770 Vini Sebastian: yeah this 262 00:32:32.070 --> 00:32:41.460 Vini Sebastian: Anyway 263 00:32:41.790 --> 00:33:00.030 Vini Sebastian: Because some resource person and we train them on the exam we orient them and he gives some exercises also to them to help them to tackle the questions in the dead and many of them passed it last year 19 of them faster take. 264 00:33:00.570 --> 00:33:01.050 Mayuri Kulkarni: Out of the. 265 00:33:01.590 --> 00:33:02.940 Vini Sebastian: Out of the pool. 266 00:33:03.150 --> 00:33:04.260 Mayuri Kulkarni: that's a good number. 267 00:33:05.430 --> 00:33:08.760 Vini Sebastian: Okay 268 00:33:08.820 --> 00:33:09.300 yeah. 269 00:33:10.650 --> 00:33:15.150 Vini Sebastian: Any we also have them to do the next exam if they are for post graduates and. 270 00:33:16.380 --> 00:33:25.800 Vini Sebastian: We also promote them to do the net 10 settings and so some of them have done last year we had one student this year 271 00:33:26.070 --> 00:33:34.740 Mayuri Kulkarni: Okay 272 00:33:35.280 --> 00:33:50.610 Mayuri Kulkarni: Oh 273 00:33:51.930 --> 00:34:03.270 Vini Sebastian: They take away a lot of things you know 274 00:34:03.990 --> 00:34:13.800 Vini Sebastian: Like you know 275 00:34:14.130 --> 00:34:20.700 Vini Sebastian: placeholder pedagogy is the different regressive pedagogy is we teach them the content also we give them important. 276 00:34:21.060 --> 00:34:28.890 Vini Sebastian: The core papers and the elective papers are done in an in a very intensive manner with lot of experiential learning strategies we are using. 277 00:34:29.340 --> 00:34:44.940 Vini Sebastian: In the College 278 00:34:46.140 --> 00:34:55.770 Vini Sebastian: We have certain modules we make for them so that also they learn how to do it 279 00:34:56.550 --> 00:35:18.810 Vini Sebastian: For their professional life and then also the since we are two years we embed all our experiences into value based experiences 280 00:35:19.980 --> 00:35:21.900 Vini Sebastian: Yes 281 00:35:22.470 --> 00:35:27.180 Vini Sebastian: Before when they did their degree 282 00:35:28.140 --> 00:35:33.060 Vini Sebastian: So the nba there is lot of collaborative learning we divide them into groups and. 283 00:35:33.390 --> 00:35:41.790 Vini Sebastian: Are they happy law exchange their thoughts 284 00:35:42.330 --> 00:35:58.980 Vini Sebastian: get an idea 285 00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:08.250 Mayuri Kulkarni: Okay 286 00:36:13.260 --> 00:36:21.900 Mayuri Kulkarni: yeah so ma'am I wanted to also understand the kind of feedback you received from schools with respect to the students preparation. 287 00:36:22.530 --> 00:36:23.580 Mayuri Kulkarni: yeah philosophy. 288 00:36:23.850 --> 00:36:26.550 Vini Sebastian: yeah schools give positive feedback for. 289 00:36:27.570 --> 00:36:40.110 Vini Sebastian: Teaching and most of the schools 290 00:36:41.310 --> 00:36:48.270 Vini Sebastian: Just wait fathers are there 291 00:36:48.540 --> 00:37:01.470 Vini Sebastian: They give us feedback 292 00:37:02.160 --> 00:37:15.090 Mayuri Kulkarni: Okay okay so and also you know after they take up teaching to your students like you said you know you have a huge Alma mater and alumnus so do they keep in touch with you and. 293 00:37:15.390 --> 00:37:22.770 Mayuri Kulkarni: What kind of feedback do they provide on the preparation of the program because now that they have left to your Institute and gone out in the actual world. 294 00:37:23.190 --> 00:37:34.560 Mayuri Kulkarni: What do they come back to you and tell you 295 00:37:35.430 --> 00:37:46.920 Vini Sebastian: yeah so you don't this and the nice thing we are finding it very difficult to keep in touch with our alumni so sadly they do not come so many people don't come back and speak to us. 296 00:37:47.310 --> 00:38:05.520 Vini Sebastian: Nor do we have a formal association 297 00:38:05.880 --> 00:38:06.360 Mayuri Kulkarni: wow and. 298 00:38:06.480 --> 00:38:14.400 Vini Sebastian: offline session they don't come 299 00:38:14.700 --> 00:38:25.110 Vini Sebastian: Right 300 00:38:25.530 --> 00:38:29.970 Vini Sebastian: More to that level 301 00:38:31.260 --> 00:38:35.070 Vini Sebastian: You know 302 00:38:35.280 --> 00:38:38.580 Vini Sebastian: Yahoo 303 00:38:39.030 --> 00:38:55.350 Vini Sebastian: In the website 304 00:38:55.680 --> 00:38:56.130 Vini Sebastian: like that. 305 00:38:56.430 --> 00:39:03.990 Vini Sebastian: So 306 00:39:04.380 --> 00:39:11.190 Vini Sebastian: types of schools 307 00:39:11.640 --> 00:39:24.030 Vini Sebastian: Only one girl said that for your internship if y'all want to just come and see the Cambridge school 308 00:39:24.660 --> 00:39:36.510 Vini Sebastian: They are very close 309 00:39:38.580 --> 00:39:40.980 Vini Sebastian: Nothing else they do not 310 00:39:42.210 --> 00:39:58.380 Vini Sebastian: feedback on the functioning of the College 311 00:39:58.560 --> 00:40:07.860 Vini Sebastian: And the college's making them ready for teaching 312 00:40:08.130 --> 00:40:16.950 Vini Sebastian: Right and they they they can modify they can adapt so that is what the ball 313 00:40:17.970 --> 00:40:18.210 Vini Sebastian: Right. 314 00:40:19.050 --> 00:40:26.850 Mayuri Kulkarni: And when we were talking about the theory to use it last year or 1972 19 have fast right. 315 00:40:27.000 --> 00:40:32.010 Mayuri Kulkarni: Yes 316 00:40:32.010 --> 00:40:36.480 Vini Sebastian: applied the few 317 00:40:36.990 --> 00:40:41.940 Vini Sebastian: Okay 318 00:40:41.970 --> 00:40:55.200 Vini Sebastian: After they finished up here 319 00:40:57.000 --> 00:41:09.720 Vini Sebastian: motivate them to do this 320 00:41:11.010 --> 00:41:14.580 Mayuri Kulkarni: Okay 321 00:41:15.660 --> 00:41:32.340 Mayuri Kulkarni: Have bolin people to provide support for the TT preparation content this so you know what can you tell like some colleges 322 00:41:32.820 --> 00:41:36.540 Mayuri Kulkarni: Similarly 323 00:41:36.600 --> 00:41:40.890 Vini Sebastian: Why i'm not aware of that they've done i'm not compared it with me. 324 00:41:41.790 --> 00:41:42.390 Mayuri Kulkarni: Oh 325 00:41:43.530 --> 00:41:43.920 Mayuri Kulkarni: No 326 00:41:45.870 --> 00:41:50.130 Mayuri Kulkarni: Also man after the students get him like after they've completed their beard. 327 00:41:50.940 --> 00:42:06.330 Mayuri Kulkarni: You know what kind of jobs do they prefer for so have you seen so there could be a trend right people to opt for say government jobs or private jobs or any other kind of jobs that they were perfect to prowl do they get these jobs. 328 00:42:06.480 --> 00:42:18.930 Vini Sebastian: They prefer a date colleges 329 00:42:19.650 --> 00:42:33.360 Vini Sebastian: So then 330 00:42:34.500 --> 00:42:34.710 Mayuri Kulkarni: Oh. 331 00:42:35.220 --> 00:42:54.030 Vini Sebastian: yeah and educational consultants they take up after a very long time because 332 00:42:54.630 --> 00:42:58.050 Vini Sebastian: And we are now coming to be it can be directly become principles. 333 00:43:00.090 --> 00:43:00.480 Mayuri Kulkarni: Oh. 334 00:43:01.920 --> 00:43:02.430 Vini Sebastian: make them. 335 00:43:02.670 --> 00:43:06.810 Vini Sebastian: Open because they have their own creation and all them. 336 00:43:07.680 --> 00:43:10.980 Mayuri Kulkarni: And then 337 00:43:10.980 --> 00:43:13.260 Vini Sebastian: Wednesday it's Wednesday where. 338 00:43:13.860 --> 00:43:16.980 Vini Sebastian: The schools also remind us when we are going to have the. 339 00:43:17.490 --> 00:43:30.360 Vini Sebastian: placement interviews 340 00:43:30.720 --> 00:43:32.910 Vini Sebastian: So we have the table and chairs for each. 341 00:43:32.910 --> 00:43:44.370 Vini Sebastian: school and then the students go to different schools and they can apply and they get job so and Plus we have to international from Dubai 342 00:43:45.330 --> 00:43:53.760 Vini Sebastian: scholars and gems international these other schools 343 00:43:55.500 --> 00:43:56.130 Mayuri Kulkarni: a wonderful. 344 00:43:57.480 --> 00:43:57.870 Mayuri Kulkarni: Okay. 345 00:43:59.070 --> 00:44:15.210 Mayuri Kulkarni: So you know 346 00:44:15.270 --> 00:44:21.000 Vini Sebastian: place now international schools that they are not very competent to teach the secondary. 347 00:44:21.570 --> 00:44:33.300 Vini Sebastian: Schools standard 348 00:44:33.900 --> 00:44:42.060 Vini Sebastian: don't take up those jobs once they know that the beads are not going to take up these jobs and they will stop appointing and they will appoint you in higher standards and. 349 00:44:42.300 --> 00:44:44.040 Vini Sebastian: You know 350 00:44:44.070 --> 00:44:45.450 Mayuri Kulkarni: Primary students side. 351 00:44:45.510 --> 00:44:53.250 Vini Sebastian: I said 352 00:44:53.610 --> 00:45:01.020 Vini Sebastian: And we have not thought you'd strategies to page the smaller children So how do you like 353 00:45:01.350 --> 00:45:07.650 Vini Sebastian: And the pitching will become monotonous 354 00:45:08.100 --> 00:45:14.010 Vini Sebastian: Please deny those kind of jobs actually to church to students 355 00:45:14.460 --> 00:45:26.760 Vini Sebastian: And I very emphatically told them not to be done with this and then from that day I was praying for them 356 00:45:27.240 --> 00:45:34.710 Vini Sebastian: They trying to be at least about six standard know I said you're trained to peak secondary schools not primary schools to. 357 00:45:34.740 --> 00:45:41.700 Vini Sebastian: buy so it doesn't mean if you're taught to secondary we are praying to for secondary you are all you can be an 11. 358 00:45:41.940 --> 00:45:50.340 Vini Sebastian: By 17 higher education also I said that's a different way of teaching and this lower level gnosis a different way of bianca please don't take up I said. 359 00:45:50.610 --> 00:46:01.290 Vini Sebastian: Yes 360 00:46:02.310 --> 00:46:04.530 Vini Sebastian: They got the money from their own salary. 361 00:46:05.160 --> 00:46:08.130 Vini Sebastian: So they have to pay for that training Program. 362 00:46:08.430 --> 00:46:15.360 Vini Sebastian: Some schools sponsor but then you know they have to pay for that additional training program and then they employ them. 363 00:46:16.680 --> 00:46:20.220 Vini Sebastian: For a higher standard 364 00:46:21.870 --> 00:46:31.020 Mayuri Kulkarni: So after be at once they get placed into these Ivy schools 365 00:46:31.200 --> 00:46:35.010 Mayuri Kulkarni: Yes 366 00:46:36.210 --> 00:46:37.140 Vini Sebastian: yeah yeah. 367 00:46:38.070 --> 00:46:43.320 Mayuri Kulkarni: And then 368 00:46:43.890 --> 00:46:45.720 Vini Sebastian: Oh 369 00:46:47.700 --> 00:46:48.000 Vini Sebastian: Because. 370 00:46:49.380 --> 00:46:50.520 Vini Sebastian: You mean hated school. 371 00:46:50.640 --> 00:46:51.330 Mayuri Kulkarni: Yes 372 00:46:51.360 --> 00:46:58.440 Vini Sebastian: So you did was we wanted 373 00:46:59.190 --> 00:47:00.600 Vini Sebastian: They want even money for the. 374 00:47:00.930 --> 00:47:14.250 Vini Sebastian: peanut convince them that after three years 375 00:47:14.520 --> 00:47:18.660 Vini Sebastian: When the children are not looking for security 376 00:47:19.020 --> 00:47:24.360 Vini Sebastian: They want to be more innovative and they don't have this idea of remaining in one institution for a long time. 377 00:47:24.930 --> 00:47:26.820 Vini Sebastian: That is one thing I learned 378 00:47:27.270 --> 00:47:35.760 Vini Sebastian: They they are not saying that they will get using So when I give advice 379 00:47:35.940 --> 00:47:45.060 Vini Sebastian: No ma'am 380 00:47:45.540 --> 00:47:48.450 Mayuri Kulkarni: yeah generation is changing. 381 00:47:49.830 --> 00:47:50.130 Mayuri Kulkarni: Right. 382 00:47:51.120 --> 00:47:56.340 Mayuri Kulkarni: Okay 383 00:47:57.510 --> 00:48:07.980 Mayuri Kulkarni: You know interview and take your students and offer them teaching good So do you have affiliations 384 00:48:08.310 --> 00:48:09.510 Mayuri Kulkarni: Your placement. 385 00:48:10.380 --> 00:48:17.730 Vini Sebastian: New affiliations 386 00:48:17.850 --> 00:48:32.940 Vini Sebastian: Okay 387 00:48:33.000 --> 00:48:36.000 Mayuri Kulkarni: To finish 388 00:48:37.200 --> 00:48:42.150 Mayuri Kulkarni: Generally i'm order to understand the starting salary of the teachers who join these private schools. 389 00:48:42.420 --> 00:48:48.240 Vini Sebastian: How much private schools to be 25 to 30 or 3530. 390 00:48:48.810 --> 00:48:52.230 Mayuri Kulkarni: And does this way 391 00:48:53.490 --> 00:48:57.180 Vini Sebastian: No 392 00:48:57.690 --> 00:49:00.060 Vini Sebastian: Okay 393 00:49:00.090 --> 00:49:04.890 Mayuri Kulkarni: Be will be only or differences primary and secondary but not exactly the green. 394 00:49:05.220 --> 00:49:09.510 Mayuri Kulkarni: room open and then today good jobs in NGOs. 395 00:49:09.960 --> 00:49:19.530 Vini Sebastian: Yes 396 00:49:20.310 --> 00:49:23.250 Vini Sebastian: Okay 397 00:49:23.580 --> 00:49:24.090 Mayuri Kulkarni: In June. 398 00:49:25.260 --> 00:49:31.770 Mayuri Kulkarni: And then say NGOs or private school is there any outdoor education barrier that you're storing. 399 00:49:31.980 --> 00:49:34.860 Vini Sebastian: Cheap or a secondary content writing is then also. 400 00:49:34.860 --> 00:49:42.870 Vini Sebastian: Okay 401 00:49:43.680 --> 00:49:43.890 Mayuri Kulkarni: Oh. 402 00:49:43.980 --> 00:49:54.570 Vini Sebastian: Are they joined for that week 403 00:49:55.470 --> 00:50:05.190 Vini Sebastian: To go to different schools of food are and they are to train the teachers 404 00:50:05.580 --> 00:50:06.990 Vini Sebastian: It was a very good 405 00:50:07.020 --> 00:50:09.060 Vini Sebastian: got bored after some time and now they are really. 406 00:50:09.690 --> 00:50:15.900 Mayuri Kulkarni: into teaching yeah so teaching content development NGOs is what your students. 407 00:50:16.080 --> 00:50:18.510 Vini Sebastian: Mostly getting used to the teaching only. 408 00:50:18.720 --> 00:50:32.640 Mayuri Kulkarni: Teaching only as teachers open open and then so in terms of institution wise Now I want to understand how you feel of the challenges you when your colleagues would face with respect to teaching students. 409 00:50:32.910 --> 00:50:45.120 Vini Sebastian: Your the communication of the students know that is a big challenge for some of them have real communication problems and some of them their willingness to learn so you're talking in terms of students are. 410 00:50:46.350 --> 00:50:49.440 Mayuri Kulkarni: No students only so 411 00:50:49.740 --> 00:50:52.560 Vini Sebastian: or attendance is not a big problem. 412 00:50:52.620 --> 00:51:00.330 Vini Sebastian: of attendance 413 00:51:01.320 --> 00:51:09.270 Vini Sebastian: Everything on to be accent 414 00:51:09.870 --> 00:51:23.310 Vini Sebastian: or something like that 415 00:51:24.450 --> 00:51:33.630 Vini Sebastian: They have other responsibilities at home 416 00:51:34.470 --> 00:51:41.040 Vini Sebastian: That intensive studies not there have any paper 417 00:51:41.940 --> 00:51:49.650 Vini Sebastian: It is not like you know that they have to break their heads or something so 418 00:51:50.250 --> 00:51:56.280 Vini Sebastian: Before the exam also they will be able to write 419 00:51:57.120 --> 00:52:05.190 Vini Sebastian: Rather than you know direct questions 420 00:52:05.550 --> 00:52:21.660 Vini Sebastian: Then it will be 421 00:52:21.900 --> 00:52:22.860 Vini Sebastian: i've attended know. 422 00:52:23.280 --> 00:52:27.690 Vini Sebastian: So 423 00:52:28.140 --> 00:52:37.560 Vini Sebastian: Because they want all syllabus oriented teaching only whatever is there in the syllabus we have protein 424 00:52:38.220 --> 00:52:46.320 Vini Sebastian: And if we give them some assignments 425 00:52:46.890 --> 00:52:54.750 Vini Sebastian: And we do not have time and you know such complaints come on 426 00:52:55.230 --> 00:53:11.160 Vini Sebastian: A capella candela college 427 00:53:12.210 --> 00:53:19.830 Mayuri Kulkarni: Oh 428 00:53:21.150 --> 00:53:35.640 Mayuri Kulkarni: Contact so when you said that your daughter studies 429 00:53:37.080 --> 00:53:37.530 Mayuri Kulkarni: daughter. 430 00:53:38.910 --> 00:53:44.220 Mayuri Kulkarni: yeah I think it can also have some other challenges you. 431 00:53:45.390 --> 00:53:52.080 Mayuri Kulkarni: Either if you do 432 00:53:52.410 --> 00:54:02.940 Mayuri Kulkarni: Like you were saying right 433 00:54:03.000 --> 00:54:03.600 ought to give. 434 00:54:04.650 --> 00:54:05.400 Mayuri Kulkarni: You can take the point. 435 00:54:11.130 --> 00:54:15.270 Mayuri Kulkarni: On my side is asking of challenges 436 00:54:15.330 --> 00:54:20.160 Vini Sebastian: You is eternal life is a lot of challenges 437 00:54:20.400 --> 00:54:23.940 Vini Sebastian: Sometimes in our college 438 00:54:24.810 --> 00:54:31.380 Vini Sebastian: And I wanted to go to make you know 439 00:54:32.130 --> 00:54:42.870 Vini Sebastian: Yes 440 00:54:43.380 --> 00:54:53.160 Vini Sebastian: You have to literally you know go burn the candle at both ends 441 00:54:53.700 --> 00:55:01.080 Vini Sebastian: That you move your motivation your to generate some inner motivation from somewhere to do that minor and major research. 442 00:55:01.620 --> 00:55:17.250 Vini Sebastian: I 443 00:55:17.760 --> 00:55:19.590 Mayuri Kulkarni: That time constraint 444 00:55:19.740 --> 00:55:23.130 Vini Sebastian: yeah so but I managed writing a lot of papers. 445 00:55:23.310 --> 00:55:28.350 Vini Sebastian: Okay 446 00:55:28.680 --> 00:55:40.530 Vini Sebastian: And then I write some papers but that also know students are you know 447 00:55:40.920 --> 00:55:54.150 Vini Sebastian: That also is not good 448 00:55:54.390 --> 00:56:03.300 Vini Sebastian: yeah 449 00:56:03.750 --> 00:56:06.090 Vini Sebastian: And we have to do so much of reports and. 450 00:56:06.300 --> 00:56:21.900 Vini Sebastian: This neck is there so many reports have to be made safe appraisal reports after me for performance appraisal appraisal report annual report 451 00:56:22.500 --> 00:56:25.590 Vini Sebastian: And the office work actually no our office is empty. 452 00:56:25.680 --> 00:56:37.170 Vini Sebastian: If you will you will not believe our offices empty 453 00:56:38.160 --> 00:56:39.420 Vini Sebastian: for appointing anybody. 454 00:56:39.750 --> 00:56:45.180 Vini Sebastian: So these are all management paid employee so management is spending so much for running the College office. 455 00:56:45.660 --> 00:56:56.010 Vini Sebastian: So we have to go 456 00:56:56.370 --> 00:57:05.520 Vini Sebastian: So many things we are bogged down with administrative work 457 00:57:05.910 --> 00:57:14.730 Vini Sebastian: I feel i've learned so much I have read so much in my paper 458 00:57:15.390 --> 00:57:23.910 Vini Sebastian: All day i'm doing something or the other 459 00:57:24.450 --> 00:57:35.250 Vini Sebastian: which I took up three years back 460 00:57:35.700 --> 00:57:44.820 Vini Sebastian: I was just doing it superficially actually because I read last time only reading on that paper 461 00:57:45.210 --> 00:57:54.630 Vini Sebastian: I know what the paper is and I contacted so many people to understand that paper well so that color that networking also we cannot go suppose we have to call somebody as a resource person. 462 00:57:54.720 --> 00:57:56.700 Vini Sebastian: From the College will not have money to pay. 463 00:57:57.510 --> 00:58:00.360 Vini Sebastian: I guess 464 00:58:00.630 --> 00:58:07.020 Vini Sebastian: So 465 00:58:08.400 --> 00:58:11.160 Vini Sebastian: Does the government is not giving us maintenance around. 466 00:58:12.210 --> 00:58:14.190 Vini Sebastian: So everything is coming from the. 467 00:58:14.190 --> 00:58:27.090 Vini Sebastian: management so management has to be everything So how are we supposed to survive 468 00:58:28.890 --> 00:58:43.770 Mayuri Kulkarni: And i'm that respect to B and C D regulation how this diet is that 469 00:58:43.830 --> 00:58:47.130 Vini Sebastian: Do terms of internship and the papers and. 470 00:58:48.030 --> 00:58:48.540 So. 471 00:58:49.710 --> 00:58:50.250 Mayuri Kulkarni: Early. 472 00:58:51.360 --> 00:59:02.730 Mayuri Kulkarni: So generally the epics body right of teacher education and as counsel for teacher education deregulation also would mean something to your college and you would also have to adhere by the regulations. 473 00:59:03.060 --> 00:59:08.190 Mayuri Kulkarni: So do you think that is okay 474 00:59:08.610 --> 00:59:17.790 Vini Sebastian: In CP regulations 475 00:59:18.450 --> 00:59:26.910 Vini Sebastian: health facilities and all that 476 00:59:27.420 --> 00:59:36.720 Vini Sebastian: The space required physical facilities 477 00:59:37.290 --> 00:59:49.800 Vini Sebastian: So we because of that 478 00:59:51.630 --> 00:59:55.560 Mayuri Kulkarni: affiliating body 479 00:59:55.890 --> 01:00:11.790 Mayuri Kulkarni: Yes 480 01:00:12.030 --> 01:00:23.610 Vini Sebastian: University of Mumbai you he gives us the curriculum and they tell us like you know how many hours 481 01:00:24.060 --> 01:00:36.030 Vini Sebastian: The University of my regulations on the so we get it from the console section at all Okay 482 01:00:36.030 --> 01:00:36.270 Mayuri Kulkarni: So. 483 01:00:36.660 --> 01:00:40.080 Vini Sebastian: It is almost the same by those regulations. 484 01:00:40.500 --> 01:00:50.340 Mayuri Kulkarni: Oh man 485 01:00:51.420 --> 01:00:58.950 Mayuri Kulkarni: So I wanted to understand you know your experience like you said during covered 486 01:00:59.580 --> 01:01:12.990 Mayuri Kulkarni: Actually enlightening for you to develop yourself 487 01:01:13.770 --> 01:01:24.570 Vini Sebastian: yeah so Initially it was you know 488 01:01:25.020 --> 01:01:35.280 Vini Sebastian: I knew only the basic so vendor for it started 489 01:01:36.090 --> 01:01:47.670 Vini Sebastian: So I didn't even know how to use this zoom and also my the batch which 490 01:01:48.270 --> 01:01:53.610 Vini Sebastian: And I literally made a big mess of it 491 01:01:54.030 --> 01:01:58.650 Vini Sebastian: Then 492 01:01:58.920 --> 01:02:10.590 Vini Sebastian: Suddenly 493 01:02:11.460 --> 01:02:21.630 Vini Sebastian: And then I picked up the skills 494 01:02:23.400 --> 01:02:33.960 Vini Sebastian: Problems with each other 495 01:02:34.470 --> 01:02:42.210 Vini Sebastian: Like when I spoke to my friend in sapphire college 496 01:02:42.600 --> 01:02:52.080 Vini Sebastian: Where the teachers had to upgrade this is so sadly in our college 497 01:02:52.770 --> 01:02:59.820 Vini Sebastian: So I had I contacted some of my colleagues and other colleges 498 01:03:00.480 --> 01:03:11.220 Vini Sebastian: custom of coming to the university and correcting the paper so they're in during that time we made good friends yeah 499 01:03:11.550 --> 01:03:17.760 Vini Sebastian: We don't come now any longer to the university papers 500 01:03:18.060 --> 01:03:28.470 Vini Sebastian: So when we correct papers 501 01:03:28.800 --> 01:03:34.470 Vini Sebastian: tell them that I am weak in this part and i'm so 502 01:03:35.010 --> 01:03:47.160 Vini Sebastian: Different colleges my my friends and they taught me Google me I didn't know anything about that Google made I said 503 01:03:48.150 --> 01:03:57.540 Vini Sebastian: And so I learned and similarly other teachers also tried to learn 504 01:03:57.960 --> 01:04:04.860 Vini Sebastian: And then during the lockdown there were some courses 505 01:04:05.400 --> 01:04:25.680 Vini Sebastian: Oh 506 01:04:27.120 --> 01:04:31.650 Vini Sebastian: Like you know 507 01:04:32.310 --> 01:04:39.600 Vini Sebastian: Then we learned 508 01:04:40.110 --> 01:04:45.210 Vini Sebastian: But the ones who are coming in 509 01:04:45.720 --> 01:04:56.100 Vini Sebastian: And they knew that a veto which are me so 510 01:04:56.490 --> 01:05:04.950 Vini Sebastian: Because I was really so bad 511 01:05:05.430 --> 01:05:06.420 Mayuri Kulkarni: For absolute. 512 01:05:06.570 --> 01:05:16.170 Vini Sebastian: So then 513 01:05:16.590 --> 01:05:27.690 Vini Sebastian: Plus 514 01:05:28.770 --> 01:05:41.850 Vini Sebastian: This thing 515 01:05:42.570 --> 01:05:44.580 Vini Sebastian: For my students 516 01:05:44.760 --> 01:06:04.020 Vini Sebastian: Night my students also I also for joining 517 01:06:05.100 --> 01:06:08.730 Vini Sebastian: They were everyone fact that they would have done it on their own. 518 01:06:11.040 --> 01:06:15.270 Vini Sebastian: They would have done it on their own 519 01:06:15.780 --> 01:06:23.280 Vini Sebastian: And then I took a session for their money skills 520 01:06:23.790 --> 01:06:39.390 Vini Sebastian: The students appreciate it a lot 521 01:06:39.930 --> 01:06:47.160 Vini Sebastian: So now I use different innovative techniques 522 01:06:47.520 --> 01:06:53.430 Vini Sebastian: Now 523 01:06:53.430 --> 01:06:54.120 Vini Sebastian: I gave a. 524 01:06:54.330 --> 01:07:06.810 Vini Sebastian: session on his skills 525 01:07:08.340 --> 01:07:13.950 Vini Sebastian: So that was a big challenge 526 01:07:14.340 --> 01:07:24.300 Vini Sebastian: And we are to write the feedback and it was so difficult 527 01:07:24.990 --> 01:07:35.520 Vini Sebastian: You only participate around five to six students will be opening their mouth and giving some answers 528 01:07:37.530 --> 01:07:45.090 Vini Sebastian: So they know that we have is not going to do anything nobody's going to come out of the screen dickie point then afterwards iPhone them individually. 529 01:07:45.810 --> 01:07:50.940 Vini Sebastian: And then I say that what happened to you in the class 530 01:07:51.210 --> 01:07:59.310 Vini Sebastian: meaning a small threats 531 01:07:59.520 --> 01:08:10.080 Vini Sebastian: participate 532 01:08:10.710 --> 01:08:19.920 Vini Sebastian: Then co curricular activities also was a big challenge 533 01:08:20.280 --> 01:08:28.320 Vini Sebastian: And some if they cannot perform it online suppose it is a play 534 01:08:28.650 --> 01:08:35.370 Vini Sebastian: But those skills were not there 535 01:08:36.180 --> 01:08:48.870 Vini Sebastian: You know 536 01:08:48.900 --> 01:08:50.580 Mayuri Kulkarni: trained in on pain when on. 537 01:08:53.850 --> 01:09:02.910 Mayuri Kulkarni: My man in terms of of you know 538 01:09:03.480 --> 01:09:10.740 Vini Sebastian: Given only on some of the way we asked their parents so some of them had over themselves so. 539 01:09:11.280 --> 01:09:21.000 Mayuri Kulkarni: So so institute like trying to you know give any medical assistance on how our House institute trying to cope with the students. 540 01:09:21.630 --> 01:09:25.170 Vini Sebastian: We have a counselor so the students can. 541 01:09:26.190 --> 01:09:33.240 Vini Sebastian: contact the counselor anytime there to give them names and the counselor will be taking individually counseling online 542 01:09:33.750 --> 01:09:38.160 Vini Sebastian: yeah we don't give any financial assistance to the students okay. 543 01:09:39.000 --> 01:09:48.570 Mayuri Kulkarni: And with respect to I noticed this Mumbai and probably all students would have enough Internet or bandwidth but was that a concern 544 01:09:48.630 --> 01:09:49.650 Mayuri Kulkarni: guys are your battery. 545 01:09:49.680 --> 01:09:57.600 Vini Sebastian: was a concern yeah so 546 01:09:58.320 --> 01:10:10.350 Vini Sebastian: know 547 01:10:10.560 --> 01:10:19.080 Vini Sebastian: And then another paper has to be given 548 01:10:19.800 --> 01:10:29.730 Vini Sebastian: principal or many multiple choice questions we prepared I but it it helped us to understand our topic in depth dominion preparing this multiple choice 549 01:10:30.180 --> 01:10:39.120 Vini Sebastian: yeah we really your brain starts turning my God 550 01:10:40.320 --> 01:10:47.910 Vini Sebastian: I made some multiple choice and a pilot tested with my students 551 01:10:48.150 --> 01:10:54.540 Vini Sebastian: me so 552 01:10:54.690 --> 01:10:55.020 Mayuri Kulkarni: Right. 553 01:10:55.080 --> 01:11:04.110 Vini Sebastian: So they were giving me advice like man this word is not proper and we are not able to on the distractors also so like that I learned to make multiple choice. 554 01:11:05.550 --> 01:11:08.760 Vini Sebastian: So I didn't I didn't know how to make a Google form. 555 01:11:09.960 --> 01:11:10.740 Mayuri Kulkarni: In this process. 556 01:11:10.770 --> 01:11:17.250 Vini Sebastian: yeah because before the lockdown my colleagues were preparing the Google form some of them 557 01:11:17.340 --> 01:11:18.030 Vini Sebastian: initiative. 558 01:11:18.090 --> 01:11:31.950 Vini Sebastian: learn anything because it 559 01:11:32.910 --> 01:11:36.600 Mayuri Kulkarni: So benny ma'am you're like this Internet pro now you. 560 01:11:36.840 --> 01:11:38.640 Mayuri Kulkarni: Online everything you know how to. 561 01:11:38.640 --> 01:11:55.380 Vini Sebastian: Do not approach 562 01:11:55.590 --> 01:11:59.010 Mayuri Kulkarni: And you also have this internal motivation that I have to know. 563 01:11:59.070 --> 01:11:59.700 Vini Sebastian: Yes 564 01:11:59.760 --> 01:12:01.980 Vini Sebastian: I was there very much strong. 565 01:12:03.150 --> 01:12:03.390 Mayuri Kulkarni: yeah. 566 01:12:03.420 --> 01:12:06.570 Vini Sebastian: I really like the students. 567 01:12:07.800 --> 01:12:13.800 Mayuri Kulkarni: Nice 568 01:12:13.920 --> 01:12:15.420 Mayuri Kulkarni: A night it doesn't matter. 569 01:12:15.690 --> 01:12:18.720 Vini Sebastian: And my students were so cooperating sometimes you know take. 570 01:12:19.440 --> 01:12:36.600 Vini Sebastian: It easy diesel i'm not able to fix the gog brown my PowerPoint Can you help me and for things you'll be sitting and waiting to be the steps so then when one of the workshops 571 01:12:37.140 --> 01:12:46.890 Vini Sebastian: So she was saying this mini man that she wanted to learn something at that time she will learn it on the at that time she will not sleep without learning that because she will not get sleep only. 572 01:12:48.000 --> 01:12:51.150 Mayuri Kulkarni: I think we need 573 01:12:52.170 --> 01:12:53.490 Mayuri Kulkarni: Though yeah because. 574 01:12:53.760 --> 01:12:59.370 Mayuri Kulkarni: You know this motivation this passion in the field of education that is actually what drives everyone around. 575 01:12:59.820 --> 01:13:09.750 Vini Sebastian: I want to thank this for a teeny you know go through the oars I was introduced for yes 576 01:13:09.990 --> 01:13:22.170 Vini Sebastian: Actual experience with oh yeah I got with this Okay 577 01:13:22.440 --> 01:13:28.200 Mayuri Kulkarni: I will definitely let them know man oh also when i'm just one last question 578 01:13:28.680 --> 01:13:43.230 Mayuri Kulkarni: I know in bits and pieces 579 01:13:43.350 --> 01:13:53.070 Vini Sebastian: i'm liking 580 01:13:53.700 --> 01:14:01.080 Vini Sebastian: So 581 01:14:01.560 --> 01:14:12.000 Vini Sebastian: And i've used a lot of resources online 582 01:14:12.570 --> 01:14:25.380 Vini Sebastian: But only thing you know I need to know my students and I need to be in touch with them that connect is not there 583 01:14:25.830 --> 01:14:39.750 Vini Sebastian: So polo somebody say something 584 01:14:39.780 --> 01:14:44.220 Mayuri Kulkarni: Like physical 585 01:14:44.250 --> 01:14:46.470 Mayuri Kulkarni: You know that is upon icon type. 586 01:14:46.800 --> 01:14:49.620 Mayuri Kulkarni: Is a little bit missing when it is online. 587 01:14:49.830 --> 01:14:51.300 Vini Sebastian: and put the videos or. 588 01:14:51.510 --> 01:15:00.990 Vini Sebastian: yeah we cannot see them also so they are just one alphabet on the screen 589 01:15:01.200 --> 01:15:05.730 Vini Sebastian: Right now 590 01:15:06.210 --> 01:15:13.560 Vini Sebastian: they're saying that now this this one so percent we don't even know how that person looks like at least you are lucky to have at least. 591 01:15:14.040 --> 01:15:15.150 Mayuri Kulkarni: One day 592 01:15:15.600 --> 01:15:28.470 Vini Sebastian: take on 593 01:15:28.710 --> 01:15:37.620 Vini Sebastian: yeah long meetings are there 594 01:15:38.070 --> 01:15:47.670 Vini Sebastian: You know that motivates me I like to go to college and you know be around and what are some was our mistake 595 01:15:47.760 --> 01:15:48.480 Mayuri Kulkarni: Yes 596 01:15:48.690 --> 01:15:59.850 Vini Sebastian: And the students 597 01:16:00.090 --> 01:16:17.130 Vini Sebastian: lot of energy and enthusiasm from them to that part of our self 598 01:16:17.820 --> 01:16:21.810 Mayuri Kulkarni: One last question 599 01:16:22.020 --> 01:16:35.070 Vini Sebastian: I need to different subjects 600 01:16:35.580 --> 01:16:37.650 Vini Sebastian: Over these are my papers which ideas. 601 01:16:38.280 --> 01:16:41.880 Mayuri Kulkarni: Okay okay oh okay my my thing.